[Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM photos are deleted on Commons

[Alexander Tsirlin]

Dear Leila,

I can also repeat my point on list. Russian WLM organizers need the time 
until October 31 in order to identify and properly transfer no-FOP 
files. The Russian organizers really need this time. They are unable and 
they will not work in a different time frame. If Commons community 
accepts this, we are all fine. If they do not accept it, we have to say 
good-bye to Commons.

Sincerely,
Alexander

On 14.09.2016 21:38, Lily wrote:
> Hi Yaroslav and others,
>
> I'm sorry that we are going through these current events. As a WLM 
> organizer, I feel the pain of organizing a contest, encouraging people 
> to participate, but then seeing or imagining their disappointment. The 
> one thing that gives the most motivation to me is to see people 
> succeed in doing the upload, not to see them fail. From what I read at 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_of_User:Лавров95_2#Comment_from_the_WLM_organizers 
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_of_User:%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B295_2#Comment_from_the_WLM_organizers> 
> I also see some of the difficulties that the Commons community are 
> facing. This is not a pleasant situation for anyone. We are all in 
> this for helping people share in the sum of all knowledge. At the 
> moment, we are distracted.
>
> We are seeing a failure of potentially more than one part of our 
> system. As a team of people working towards the same goal, we should 
> investigate what has happened from the beginning to the end, 
> understand what has gone wrong and where (no blaming of each other, 
> simply understanding), and come up with processes for fixing the 
> broken parts. This will help us not have to visit a similar problem 
> again and move forward together and more efficiently.
>
> I will reach out to some of you involved in this discussion off-list 
> to start a (postmortem) discussion. In the mean time, I ask all of you 
> to consider the other side and treat each other with humility, trust, 
> and respect.
>
> Best,
> Leila
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
> <putevod at mccme.ru <mailto:putevod at mccme.ru>> wrote:
>
>     On 14.09.2016 20:50, Marco Chiesa wrote:
>
>         On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter
>         <putevod at mccme.ru <mailto:putevod at mccme.ru>> wrote:
>
>             The files have been deleted, meaning we will advise WLM
>             participants not to
>             use Commons anymore.
>
>
>         By the way, such images would not qualify for WLM anyway,
>         since they
>         are copyvios.
>         Cruccone
>
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>     I know. The problems are demotivation of new users and excess work
>     for Commons admins (in this case, most likely, me) to undelete
>     these images for transfer to the Russian Wikivoyage (and,
>     possibly, Wikipedia).
>
>     Cheers
>     Yaroslav
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