[Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM photos are deleted on Commons
lilyofthewest.wikimedia at gmail.com
Wed Sep 14 19:58:39 UTC 2016
For the specific case of Russia, I confirm that I have heard your point.
I also would like to encourage you to be open to listening to other lines
of arguments and be more flexible with considering other solutions.
Remember that at the end of the day, the Commons community is also
operating based on the same basic principles and motivations as the rest of
the Wikimedia community. We are in this together, and to move forward
efficiently we should work together.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Alexander Tsirlin <altsirlin at gmail.com>
> Dear Leila,
> I can also repeat my point on list. Russian WLM organizers need the time
> until October 31 in order to identify and properly transfer no-FOP files.
> The Russian organizers really need this time. They are unable and they will
> not work in a different time frame. If Commons community accepts this, we
> are all fine. If they do not accept it, we have to say good-bye to Commons.
> On 14.09.2016 21:38, Lily wrote:
> Hi Yaroslav and others,
> I'm sorry that we are going through these current events. As a WLM
> organizer, I feel the pain of organizing a contest, encouraging people to
> participate, but then seeing or imagining their disappointment. The one
> thing that gives the most motivation to me is to see people succeed in
> doing the upload, not to see them fail. From what I read at
> requests/Files_of_User:Лавров95_2#Comment_from_the_WLM_organizers I also
> see some of the difficulties that the Commons community are facing. This is
> not a pleasant situation for anyone. We are all in this for helping people
> share in the sum of all knowledge. At the moment, we are distracted.
> We are seeing a failure of potentially more than one part of our system.
> As a team of people working towards the same goal, we should investigate
> what has happened from the beginning to the end, understand what has gone
> wrong and where (no blaming of each other, simply understanding), and come
> up with processes for fixing the broken parts. This will help us not have
> to visit a similar problem again and move forward together and more
> I will reach out to some of you involved in this discussion off-list to
> start a (postmortem) discussion. In the mean time, I ask all of you to
> consider the other side and treat each other with humility, trust, and
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru>
>> On 14.09.2016 20:50, Marco Chiesa wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru>
>>> The files have been deleted, meaning we will advise WLM participants not
>>>> use Commons anymore.
>>> By the way, such images would not qualify for WLM anyway, since they
>>> are copyvios.
>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
>>> WikiLovesMonuments at lists.wikimedia.org
>> I know. The problems are demotivation of new users and excess work for
>> Commons admins (in this case, most likely, me) to undelete these images for
>> transfer to the Russian Wikivoyage (and, possibly, Wikipedia).
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