[Wiki Loves Monuments] Fwd: Moving monuments database to Wikidata

Magnus Manske magnusmanske at googlemail.com
Thu Jul 30 09:45:14 UTC 2015


Ah, do we really want to duplicate information like this? The individual
items already have "heritage status: Grade I listed structure" or somesuch.
Manually curating a list on Q6646074 seems pointless when we can
auto-generate it.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:00 AM Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:

> So now, for the Birmingham list (first link in the mail below), I added
> the first few monuments to the Wikidata item for this list here:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6646074
>
> I used "has part"  but maybe there should be a property "list item"  or
> somesuch thing?
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> From: Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Moving monuments database to Wikidata
> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
> wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> OK I am now looking at your Q number Q5642705 and I see that it is a hall,
> so I expect it to be an instance of hall, but it's not and it's an instance
> of architectural structure. This item has an enwiki Wikipedia article and
> when I click what links here I see the WLM list here:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_buildings_in_Birmingham
> Here I see only 4 columns - name, grade, date and architect
>
> An item that is also a hall in NL is a water board building called a
> gemeenlandshuis. Here is an example item
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2847105
> This is an instance of gemeenlandshuis which in turn is a subclass of hall.
>
> On the Dutch Wikipedia when I click what links here I see the link to the
> WLM list here:
>
> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_rijksmonumenten_in_Haarlemmerliede_en_Spaarnwoude
> This list has eight columns - name, original function, date, architect,
> location, coordinates, WLM ID, photo
>
> The column headings should be coming from the monuments database, and the
> original function should be the reason the object made it into the WLM list.
>
> I think both of these items should be part of a corresponding list on
> Wikidata. When I click what links here on Wikidata I see nothing that takes
> me to WLM. The only clue is the property P1435 for the British Q and
> property P359 for the Dutch Q.
>
> Maybe we should augment the corresponding list items with their members so
> that when you click what links here you are taken to the Q number of of the
> list item? This effectively migrates the lists to Wikidata
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 26 July 2015 at 07:42, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So such wikipedia articles should be labelled " instance of"  <the name
>> of
>> > your identifier used in WLM>.
>>
>> I believe that method has been deprecated, and it is preferred to use
>> a property P1435 ("heritage status" in English):
>>
>>     https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1435
>>
>> as done, for example, on:
>>
>>    https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5642705
>>
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
>> @pigsonthewing
>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>>
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