[Wiki Loves Monuments] Fwd: Moving monuments database to Wikidata

Jane Darnell jane023 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 30 08:59:58 UTC 2015


So now, for the Birmingham list (first link in the mail below), I added the
first few monuments to the Wikidata item for this list here:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6646074

I used "has part"  but maybe there should be a property "list item"  or
somesuch thing?
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From: Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Moving monuments database to Wikidata
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org>


OK I am now looking at your Q number Q5642705 and I see that it is a hall,
so I expect it to be an instance of hall, but it's not and it's an instance
of architectural structure. This item has an enwiki Wikipedia article and
when I click what links here I see the WLM list here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_buildings_in_Birmingham
Here I see only 4 columns - name, grade, date and architect

An item that is also a hall in NL is a water board building called a
gemeenlandshuis. Here is an example item
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2847105
This is an instance of gemeenlandshuis which in turn is a subclass of hall.

On the Dutch Wikipedia when I click what links here I see the link to the
WLM list here:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_rijksmonumenten_in_Haarlemmerliede_en_Spaarnwoude
This list has eight columns - name, original function, date, architect,
location, coordinates, WLM ID, photo

The column headings should be coming from the monuments database, and the
original function should be the reason the object made it into the WLM list.

I think both of these items should be part of a corresponding list on
Wikidata. When I click what links here on Wikidata I see nothing that takes
me to WLM. The only clue is the property P1435 for the British Q and
property P359 for the Dutch Q.

Maybe we should augment the corresponding list items with their members so
that when you click what links here you are taken to the Q number of of the
list item? This effectively migrates the lists to Wikidata

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>
wrote:

> On 26 July 2015 at 07:42, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So such wikipedia articles should be labelled " instance of"  <the name
> of
> > your identifier used in WLM>.
>
> I believe that method has been deprecated, and it is preferred to use
> a property P1435 ("heritage status" in English):
>
>     https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1435
>
> as done, for example, on:
>
>    https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5642705
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
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> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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