[Wiki Loves Monuments] Moving monuments database to Wikidata

[Jane Darnell]

I am not advocating "generating"  in the sense of data creation, but am
advocating "generating" in the sense of data visualization. So now the
rijksmonument lists are only visible in the Dutch Wikipedia, though all of
the info about the individual objects is in Wikidata (thanks to the work of
Maarten Dammers and countless Wikipedians of course). Wait I will fisrt add
the objects to the Wikidata list item and repost the results here, maybe it
will be clearer for you then what I mean.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Andre Koopal <andre at molens.org> wrote:

> Yes, but there are other halls certainly who are not a monument. If you
> start generating lists it should just be the heritage status, and then
> split over city for example.
>
> Regards,
>
> André
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but broadly speaking this is also the reason the object made it into
>> the Rijksmonument list to begin with (the reason it was chosen for heritage
>> status)
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Andre Koopal <andre at molens.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Very quickly (I am at work), no, the original function should not be the
>>> reason the object made it into the WLM list, the fact that it is a
>>> 'rijksmonument' and thus have a rijksmonument-id is the reason to make it
>>> in the list.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> André
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK I am now looking at your Q number Q5642705 and I see that it is a
>>>> hall, so I expect it to be an instance of hall, but it's not and it's an
>>>> instance of architectural structure. This item has an enwiki Wikipedia
>>>> article and when I click what links here I see the WLM list here:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_buildings_in_Birmingham
>>>> Here I see only 4 columns - name, grade, date and architect
>>>>
>>>> An item that is also a hall in NL is a water board building called a
>>>> gemeenlandshuis. Here is an example item
>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2847105
>>>> This is an instance of gemeenlandshuis which in turn is a subclass of
>>>> hall.
>>>>
>>>> On the Dutch Wikipedia when I click what links here I see the link to
>>>> the WLM list here:
>>>>
>>>> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_rijksmonumenten_in_Haarlemmerliede_en_Spaarnwoude
>>>> This list has eight columns - name, original function, date, architect,
>>>> location, coordinates, WLM ID, photo
>>>>
>>>> The column headings should be coming from the monuments database, and
>>>> the original function should be the reason the object made it into the WLM
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>> I think both of these items should be part of a corresponding list on
>>>> Wikidata. When I click what links here on Wikidata I see nothing that takes
>>>> me to WLM. The only clue is the property P1435 for the British Q and
>>>> property P359 for the Dutch Q.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we should augment the corresponding list items with their members
>>>> so that when you click what links here you are taken to the Q number of of
>>>> the list item? This effectively migrates the lists to Wikidata
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Andy Mabbett <
>>>> andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 26 July 2015 at 07:42, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > So such wikipedia articles should be labelled " instance of"  <the
>>>>> name of
>>>>> > your identifier used in WLM>.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that method has been deprecated, and it is preferred to use
>>>>> a property P1435 ("heritage status" in English):
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1435
>>>>>
>>>>> as done, for example, on:
>>>>>
>>>>>    https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5642705
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andy Mabbett
>>>>> @pigsonthewing
>>>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>>>>>
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