[Wiki Loves Monuments] Moving monuments database to Wikidata

[Andre Koopal]

Yes, but there are other halls certainly who are not a monument. If you
start generating lists it should just be the heritage status, and then
split over city for example.

Regards,

André


On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, but broadly speaking this is also the reason the object made it into
> the Rijksmonument list to begin with (the reason it was chosen for heritage
> status)
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Andre Koopal <andre at molens.org> wrote:
>
>> Very quickly (I am at work), no, the original function should not be the
>> reason the object made it into the WLM list, the fact that it is a
>> 'rijksmonument' and thus have a rijksmonument-id is the reason to make it
>> in the list.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> André
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK I am now looking at your Q number Q5642705 and I see that it is a
>>> hall, so I expect it to be an instance of hall, but it's not and it's an
>>> instance of architectural structure. This item has an enwiki Wikipedia
>>> article and when I click what links here I see the WLM list here:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_buildings_in_Birmingham
>>> Here I see only 4 columns - name, grade, date and architect
>>>
>>> An item that is also a hall in NL is a water board building called a
>>> gemeenlandshuis. Here is an example item
>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2847105
>>> This is an instance of gemeenlandshuis which in turn is a subclass of
>>> hall.
>>>
>>> On the Dutch Wikipedia when I click what links here I see the link to
>>> the WLM list here:
>>>
>>> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_rijksmonumenten_in_Haarlemmerliede_en_Spaarnwoude
>>> This list has eight columns - name, original function, date, architect,
>>> location, coordinates, WLM ID, photo
>>>
>>> The column headings should be coming from the monuments database, and
>>> the original function should be the reason the object made it into the WLM
>>> list.
>>>
>>> I think both of these items should be part of a corresponding list on
>>> Wikidata. When I click what links here on Wikidata I see nothing that takes
>>> me to WLM. The only clue is the property P1435 for the British Q and
>>> property P359 for the Dutch Q.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should augment the corresponding list items with their members
>>> so that when you click what links here you are taken to the Q number of of
>>> the list item? This effectively migrates the lists to Wikidata
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Andy Mabbett <
>>> andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26 July 2015 at 07:42, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > So such wikipedia articles should be labelled " instance of"  <the
>>>> name of
>>>> > your identifier used in WLM>.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that method has been deprecated, and it is preferred to use
>>>> a property P1435 ("heritage status" in English):
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1435
>>>>
>>>> as done, for example, on:
>>>>
>>>>    https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5642705
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andy Mabbett
>>>> @pigsonthewing
>>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>>>>
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