[Wiki Loves Monuments] jury tools

Naveen Francis naveenpf at wikimedia.in
Thu Sep 13 03:12:10 UTC 2012

This is super cool
How to get this working for other countries  ?


On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Peter Ekman <pdekman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Kaldari came up with a tool for WLM-US which works quite well IMHO as
> a part of the jury process, but is not the whole answer.
> I'm not a coder, so I can't fully explain it or adapt it for your
> uses, so technical questions and requests should go to Kaldari.  I'm
> also not volunteering him for anything, it's very possible that he may
> not have the time, but maybe somebody else could adapt it.
> But feel free to try it - in a real working situation - at
> http://toolserver.org/~kaldari/reviewer/review.php for US pictures
> I'll just say, when in doubt, hit "can't decide".  It also has a quirk
> or two - in which case just hit the reload button on your browser or
> quit with no harm done.
> The logic is that you can include a photo for further consideration by
> clicking "Nominate", or you can eliminate it from further
> consideration by clicking "Decline for nomination" and when you can't
> decide click "can't decide."  It works by manipulating categories on
> the photo's file "Category:WLM-US 2012 unreviewed"  to start off, then
> "reviewed" and/or "nominated"  We're aiming to eliminate 90% at this
> point - keeping up as the photos come in.  But in reality we're
> keeping 14%.
> I think one of the quirks is when folks manually change categories -
> it can just stay in the unreviewed category forever.  The fix here is
> just manually changing the categories to the correct state.
> It's a tough system (but quick) "one strike and you're out."  But it
> is needed if you have several thousand photos to go through and want
> to get down to a few hundred in a reasonable time so that you can
> properly consider the best ones.
> I'd love it if there could be a positive version of this - say click
> keep and the bot places the file name in your sandbox - but the
> problem there would be you don't eliminate anything and the possible
> selection just keeps on growing.
> The ultimate answer would be a voting system something like POTY - but
> I have my doubts that this can be done with 1,000s of photos coming in
> one end and hundreds coming out the other.  The mathematics of proper
> discrimination would require at least 5 or so votes (up or down) per
> photo so lots of datahandling would be involved.
> So, in short, people judging along multiple dimensions at the same
> time and taking time with each photo are going to be required at some
> point.  The above only helps to winnow in a systematic way, so that
> the people can get involved with a reasonable number of photos to deal
> with.
> I'd love to hear how other folks handle this problem or anybody who
> has a better tool.
> Pete Ekman
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> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:05:03 -0200
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> Hi,
> Correct me if I missed something, but I didn't really saw yet a tool which
> the chapters can use for the jury process. I saw a link to WMPT tool on the
> last thread that I found, but didn't understand at the end of him, if
> he available to uses by others, how hard is to install him and etc...
> Is there any new ideas or tools that we may use (the chapters who don't
> have technical guys to handle things :))
> Itzik
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