[Wiki Loves Monuments] Community voting and jury process.

Matthew Roth mroth at wikimedia.org
Sun Jul 29 20:39:51 UTC 2012

Hi all,
Per Lodewijk's suggestion, I'm bringing this to the larger list.

WLM-US organizers have been discussing the value of setting up a community
voting process on-wiki for the initial selection of the top 500 or so
photos in the WLM-US pool, which we will then send to the judges (though
we're thinking it would be wise to have the judges also surface photos they
like  that don't make the top 500). Can anyone on this list (particularly
Russian organizers) give us feedback on what works well and what does not
work well?

Did you reach out to Commons contributors who had helped with any of the
Featured Picture selection or Picture of the Year voting for feedback? A
few of those people we've identified live in the U.S., so we're going to
reach out to the relevant individuals. We've also been discussing how to
incorporate the WikiProject on English WP that deals with our monuments
(WP:NRHP) to try to get help from them. We're thinking of it as a group of
ambassadors or captains who can help us alleviate some of the challenge for
the jury of sorting thousands of photos.

Any feedback would be very welcome.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>
Date: Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Jury process in the US
To: Maarten Dammers <maarten at mdammers.nl>
Cc: Matthew Roth <mroth at wikimedia.org>, Katie Filbert <aude.wiki at gmail.com>,
"Richard (User:Pharos)" <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com>, Peter Ekman <
pdekman at gmail.com>, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari at wikimedia.org>, Sarah Stierch <
sstierch at wikimedia.org>

What about discussing this particular issue on the international mailing
list? I know at least Russia has some experience with a community WLM vote
- and I know India is bumping into the same problems as the US here.


2012/7/28 Maarten Dammers <maarten at mdammers.nl>

> Hi Matthew,
> Op 28-7-2012 20:43, Matthew Roth schreef:
>> Hi Maarten and Lodewijk,
>> In discussions with Wikimedia DC and other WLM-US organizers, I think
>> we're going to try to set up a voting mechanism on-wiki so that Commons
>> users can help us select the top 500 photos in the WLM-US pool, which we
>> will then send to the judges (though the judges can also surface photos
>> that don't make the top 500). We're also talking about having contestants
>> have the option to nominate their own favorite photos to help highlight
>> their own photos for the voting. Pharos brought up a question about being
>> able to put a nomination button in the Uploader so that it automatically
>> tagged the photos with a particular category if the uploader chooses to
>> nominate particular photos of theirs. Do you think that could be easily
>> done from a technical stance? Also curious to hear your thoughts in general
>> about the plan.
> I'm very happy to see things are starting to move in the US. Adding bells
> and whistles to the upload process would go against one of the core
> principles (https://commons.wikimedia.**org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_**
> Monuments/Philosophy<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Philosophy>)
> of WLM: Make it easy, so I'm not in favour of that. The jury process
> shouldn't cost the organization too much work and it shouldn't bother the
> (new) uploaders.  I'm not sure how this will work, I don't have any
> experience with this model.
> Maarten


Matthew Roth
Global Communications
Wikimedia Foundation
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