[Translators-l] Tech News translators: dates in recurring items

[Sylvain Chiron]

But ‘defualtformat’ looks a bit wrong (it is already online).

Sylvain

Le 19/01/2017 à 20:17, Sylvain Chiron a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I think searching the right format to have then automation when you
> translate 50 newsletters a year is really worth it.
> 
> Please include this!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sylvain Chiron
> 
> Le 19/01/2017 à 18:58, Haytham Aly a écrit :
>> Hi Johan,
>>
>> This idea is brilliant.
>>
>> My own concern for Arabic is that there are two major ways for
>> displaying Gregorian month names; transliteration as well as the
>> Assyrian names. Usually transliterated names suffice, but I prefer using
>> both divided by a slash. This is due to differences in official use,
>> since transliterated names are used in Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Yemen, and
>> Gulf states; while Assyrian names are used in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon,
>> Jordan and Palestine. Could this automation function render both or just
>> the common transliterated month names? It would be a bonus to have both
>> displayed, though only transliterated month names would suffice.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Haytham Abulela Aly
>>
>> Freelance Translator
>> Creative Translation
>> "Creative & Confident"
>>
>>
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>>
>> On 19/01/2017 8:31 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> TL;DR: Dates in items that are in the newsletter every week could be
>>> in a format that means you could get a 100% in the translation memory
>>> and not have to change the days and months every week. Do you want this?
>>>
>>> Longer version:
>>>
>>> Based on Mathieu's suggestion, I've tested adding dates within <tvar>
>>> tags. This makes it more complicated the first time you translate, but
>>> should mean that you can then use a 100% match from the translation
>>> memory every time and just click on it the same way you do for any
>>> other content that stays exactly the same, instead of manually having
>>> to change the days and months every new week.
>>>
>>> It looks like this:
>>> {#time:<tvar|defualtformat>d
>>> xg</>|<tvar|date1>2017-01-24</>|<tvar|format_language_code>{{CURRENTCONTENTLANGUAGE}}</>}}
>>> which means that I get this when I translate:
>>> {{#time:$defualtformat|$date1|$format_language_code}}.
>>>
>>> For Swedish, I can just keep it like that: Where the English original
>>> said "24 January" the Swedish translation will say "24 januari". 
>>>
>>> Some languages write dates in another format. For Mandarin Chinese,
>>> the first time I do a translation I need to change it to {{#time:n月j
>>> 日|$date1|$format_language_code}} (and the same for $date2 and
>>> $date3). I imagine RTL languages will need to change something too the
>>> first time they translate this, for example.
>>>
>>> All possible options are described here:
>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time 
>>>
>>> Pro: Less burden for returning translators. You translate this once,
>>> whether you change the date format or not, then you just click on the
>>> translation in the translation memory next week.
>>>
>>> Con: More complicated. More difficult for new translators, especially
>>> if the standard format doesn't match the norms of their language.
>>>
>>> The question: Do you want this, or did you prefer it the way it was?
>>> This is all about making it as easy as possible for you, so you decide.
>>>
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2017%2F04&action=page
>>>
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2017/04
>>>
>>> //Johan Jönsson
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>>>
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