[Translators-l] Tech News translators: dates in recurring items

mathieu stumpf guntz psychoslave at culture-libre.org
Fri Jan 20 10:29:55 UTC 2017


Saluton Sylvain,

Do you mean it should be "defaultformat" (with "au" rather than "ua") or 
"default_format", or something else?



Le 19/01/2017 à 20:20, Sylvain Chiron a écrit :
> But ‘defualtformat’ looks a bit wrong (it is already online).
>
> Sylvain
>
> Le 19/01/2017 à 20:17, Sylvain Chiron a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think searching the right format to have then automation when you
>> translate 50 newsletters a year is really worth it.
>>
>> Please include this!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sylvain Chiron
>>
>> Le 19/01/2017 à 18:58, Haytham Aly a écrit :
>>> Hi Johan,
>>>
>>> This idea is brilliant.
>>>
>>> My own concern for Arabic is that there are two major ways for
>>> displaying Gregorian month names; transliteration as well as the
>>> Assyrian names. Usually transliterated names suffice, but I prefer using
>>> both divided by a slash. This is due to differences in official use,
>>> since transliterated names are used in Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Yemen, and
>>> Gulf states; while Assyrian names are used in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon,
>>> Jordan and Palestine. Could this automation function render both or just
>>> the common transliterated month names? It would be a bonus to have both
>>> displayed, though only transliterated month names would suffice.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Haytham Abulela Aly
>>>
>>> Freelance Translator
>>> Creative Translation
>>> "Creative & Confident"
>>>
>>>
>>> Certified member of the Society of Translators and Interpreters of British Columbia (STIBC) (EN>AR)
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>>>
>>> On 19/01/2017 8:31 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> TL;DR: Dates in items that are in the newsletter every week could be
>>>> in a format that means you could get a 100% in the translation memory
>>>> and not have to change the days and months every week. Do you want this?
>>>>
>>>> Longer version:
>>>>
>>>> Based on Mathieu's suggestion, I've tested adding dates within <tvar>
>>>> tags. This makes it more complicated the first time you translate, but
>>>> should mean that you can then use a 100% match from the translation
>>>> memory every time and just click on it the same way you do for any
>>>> other content that stays exactly the same, instead of manually having
>>>> to change the days and months every new week.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like this:
>>>> {#time:<tvar|defualtformat>d
>>>> xg</>|<tvar|date1>2017-01-24</>|<tvar|format_language_code>{{CURRENTCONTENTLANGUAGE}}</>}}
>>>> which means that I get this when I translate:
>>>> {{#time:$defualtformat|$date1|$format_language_code}}.
>>>>
>>>> For Swedish, I can just keep it like that: Where the English original
>>>> said "24 January" the Swedish translation will say "24 januari".
>>>>
>>>> Some languages write dates in another format. For Mandarin Chinese,
>>>> the first time I do a translation I need to change it to {{#time:n月j
>>>> 日|$date1|$format_language_code}} (and the same for $date2 and
>>>> $date3). I imagine RTL languages will need to change something too the
>>>> first time they translate this, for example.
>>>>
>>>> All possible options are described here:
>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time
>>>>
>>>> Pro: Less burden for returning translators. You translate this once,
>>>> whether you change the date format or not, then you just click on the
>>>> translation in the translation memory next week.
>>>>
>>>> Con: More complicated. More difficult for new translators, especially
>>>> if the standard format doesn't match the norms of their language.
>>>>
>>>> The question: Do you want this, or did you prefer it the way it was?
>>>> This is all about making it as easy as possible for you, so you decide.
>>>>
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2017%2F04&action=page
>>>>
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2017/04
>>>>
>>>> //Johan Jönsson
>>>> --
>>>>
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