[Translators-l] Tech News translators: dates in recurring items

Haytham Aly haytham.hammam at gmail.com
Thu Jan 19 17:58:42 UTC 2017

Hi Johan,

This idea is brilliant.

My own concern for Arabic is that there are two major ways for 
displaying Gregorian month names; transliteration as well as the 
Assyrian names. Usually transliterated names suffice, but I prefer using 
both divided by a slash. This is due to differences in official use, 
since transliterated names are used in Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Yemen, and 
Gulf states; while Assyrian names are used in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, 
Jordan and Palestine. Could this automation function render both or just 
the common transliterated month names? It would be a bonus to have both 
displayed, though only transliterated month names would suffice.


Haytham Abulela Aly

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On 19/01/2017 8:31 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> TL;DR: Dates in items that are in the newsletter every week could be 
> in a format that means you could get a 100% in the translation memory 
> and not have to change the days and months every week. Do you want this?
> Longer version:
> Based on Mathieu's suggestion, I've tested adding dates within <tvar> 
> tags. This makes it more complicated the first time you translate, but 
> should mean that you can then use a 100% match from the translation 
> memory every time and just click on it the same way you do for any 
> other content that stays exactly the same, instead of manually having 
> to change the days and months every new week.
> It looks like this:
> {#time:<tvar|defualtformat>d 
> xg</>|<tvar|date1>2017-01-24</>|<tvar|format_language_code>{{CURRENTCONTENTLANGUAGE}}</>}} 
> which means that I get this when I translate:
> {{#time:$defualtformat|$date1|$format_language_code}}.
> For Swedish, I can just keep it like that: Where the English original 
> said "24 January" the Swedish translation will say "24 januari".
> Some languages write dates in another format. For Mandarin Chinese, 
> the first time I do a translation I need to change it to 
> {{#time:n月j日|$date1|$format_language_code}} (and the same for $date2 
> and $date3). I imagine RTL languages will need to change something too 
> the first time they translate this, for example.
> All possible options are described here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time
> Pro: Less burden for returning translators. You translate this once, 
> whether you change the date format or not, then you just click on the 
> translation in the translation memory next week.
> Con: More complicated. More difficult for new translators, especially 
> if the standard format doesn't match the norms of their language.
> The question: Do you want this, or did you prefer it the way it was? 
> This is all about making it as easy as possible for you, so you decide.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Tech%2FNews%2F2017%2F04&action=page
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2017/04
> //Johan Jönsson
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