[Translators-l] Automated translation not working?

Bjoern Hassler bjohas+mw at gmail.com
Mon Apr 17 07:26:54 UTC 2017

Hi Philippe,

many thanks.

Do you mean e.g. on
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Inhalts%C3%BCbersetzung ? I don't see
a yellow box? There is "Von einer beliebigen Sprache / In eine beliebige
Sprache", but that lists English/German in both.

In any case - are you basically saying that English <-> German could be

Many thanks!

On 16 April 2017 at 21:38, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> This is displayed in the top header (yellow box) which lsits the
> "proiritized" languages. Anyway there's another setting (not displayed)
> that disallow other translations (this was discussed recently when someone
> created a page to translate ONLY in minority languages, exclusing all other
> major languages than the source English).
> Experience shows that (espacially for minory languages that very few
> translators available, many of them not being very fluent in English) we
> need to always enable other languages thant English to help disambiguate
> the English source so that translators for minority languages can see
> translations proposed in other major languages and that are better
> reviewed, in order to provide better translations not just based on the
> English source but also on what they can better read and understand in
> another language.
> I must confess that I see no reason to exclude any language (except old
> compatibility languages whose use is no longer recommanded, and which may
> be configured globally, only if there's other choices of language codes:
> those compatibility codes will finally be redirected to new ones or locked
> down).
> And for the ~15 major languages of the world (that are used as lingua
> francas for regional or national interchanges) they should never be
> disabled (notably because they are already used as fallback languages for
> missing translations in minority languages). For a list of fallback
> languages (that should never be disabled), see for example what is
> implemented in Commons and MetaWiki; this is more than just English which
> is only the last-chance fallback ! The list of fallbacks was first
> implemtend as templates ,then as modules, and now as part of global wiki
> configuration (and part now of MediaWiki itself with its API).
> 2017-04-16 13:15 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Hassler <bjohas+mw at gmail.com>:
>> Thanks! How do I find out which language pairs are enabled?
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