[Translators-l] Automated translation not working?

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Sun Apr 16 20:38:37 UTC 2017

This is displayed in the top header (yellow box) which lsits the
"proiritized" languages. Anyway there's another setting (not displayed)
that disallow other translations (this was discussed recently when someone
created a page to translate ONLY in minority languages, exclusing all other
major languages than the source English).

Experience shows that (espacially for minory languages that very few
translators available, many of them not being very fluent in English) we
need to always enable other languages thant English to help disambiguate
the English source so that translators for minority languages can see
translations proposed in other major languages and that are better
reviewed, in order to provide better translations not just based on the
English source but also on what they can better read and understand in
another language.

I must confess that I see no reason to exclude any language (except old
compatibility languages whose use is no longer recommanded, and which may
be configured globally, only if there's other choices of language codes:
those compatibility codes will finally be redirected to new ones or locked

And for the ~15 major languages of the world (that are used as lingua
francas for regional or national interchanges) they should never be
disabled (notably because they are already used as fallback languages for
missing translations in minority languages). For a list of fallback
languages (that should never be disabled), see for example what is
implemented in Commons and MetaWiki; this is more than just English which
is only the last-chance fallback ! The list of fallbacks was first
implemtend as templates ,then as modules, and now as part of global wiki
configuration (and part now of MediaWiki itself with its API).

2017-04-16 13:15 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Hassler <bjohas+mw at gmail.com>:

> Thanks! How do I find out which language pairs are enabled?
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