[Translators-l] Major changes to the Save button: please translate a message for me

Thu Aug 4 20:41:47 UTC 2016

I have not invalidated any translation, I've checked all the existing ones
to make sure they were still usable when I surrounded some texts with links.

2016-08-04 22:32 GMT+02:00 Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder <
ssnyder at wikimedia.org>:

> I believe we are still missing translations in Spanish and German, to name
> just two languages with many users.  Also, if you worked on a translation
> early in the week, please check back to see whether Verdy_p's changes
> invalidated any of your work.
>
> --
> Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder
> Community Liaison
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder <
> ssnyder at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for your help so far.
>>
>> The page name is of almost no importance, because almost no one except us
>> will see it.  People will mostly see this on their local wikis.  I do
>> congratulate Philippe Verdy on correctly decoding the page title.  :-)
>>
>> MassMessage unfortunately does not permit translated headers.  Being able
>> to provide translated ==Section headings== is high on my personal wishlist
>> for future improvements.  In the meantime, if anyone happens to see these
>> messages on the Village Pumps and similar pages, and wants to replace the
>> header with something locally intelligible, then I would be grateful.  (I
>> suspect that is universally true, regardless of who's sending the message
>> or what the message is about.)
>>
>> Again, thank you.  You all are awesome.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder
>> Community Liaison
>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The page itself has a translatable title, but I doubt it will be used as
>>> is for posting a message.
>>>
>>> May be we should add a translatable section heading in this page (that
>>> could then be used for posting to other talk pages or as the subject line
>>> of an email).
>>>
>>> However, the page says it will be announced in the Tech News letter,
>>> which already has its own headings (it won't be posted twice I think). So
>>> in my opinion, there should just be a link from the Tech news to this page
>>> (which may be updated later with complements for the release).
>>>
>>> So for now just translate the page title, it should be enough. The base
>>> pagename "Editing" is most probably related to the work of the "Editing"
>>> Team in the MediaWiki development at the WMF, but unfortunately the subtile
>>> used, with only the term "/Publish", is very imprecise too generic, it
>>> should have been more like "/Save or Publish buttons for a new page
>>> or changes")
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-08-02 3:21 GMT+02:00 גיא כהן <guycn1 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hebrew also done, but I have a question:
>>>> How can I translate the title of the section for this message? I really
>>>> don't want this message to be posted with an English title in our wiki...
>>>>
>>>> 2016-08-02 0:51 GMT+03:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>:
>>>>
>>>>> French done (including the news page).
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: I fixed the code of this news page to use "bdi" tags within the
>>>>> hidden tvars for button labels, because the news page displays a translated
>>>>> language which is not necessarily the same as the user language used to
>>>>> render the button labels (this causes issues notably for the surrounding
>>>>> punctuations if these languages are not using the same direction: the page
>>>>> in English could be read while the user's language would be Arabic... or
>>>>> the reverse). I've checked the few existing translations of this page to
>>>>> make sure they were consistant.
>>>>>
>>>>> The links to the two important button labels to translate, are also
>>>>> now made bolder (it should be evident where to go to translate these
>>>>> buttons, without having to look for the labels in the thousands of
>>>>> translations for MediaWiki using searches in a long list). At first I was
>>>>> wondering where to go to translate these two buttons. Now with the help
>>>>> page, it is clear (even if translators on translatewiki.net don't
>>>>> read it completely and don't care really about this news page).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-08-01 22:24 GMT+02:00 Vi to <vituzzu.wiki at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Italian done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vito
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-08-01 21:52 GMT+02:00 Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder <
>>>>>> ssnyder at wikimedia.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please translate this message:  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi
>>>>>>> ki/Editing/Publish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This message describes a significant change to the most important
>>>>>>> button on any wiki:  the "Save page" button will soon be split into two
>>>>>>> labels:  "Publish page" (for new page creations) and "Publish changes" (for
>>>>>>> edits to existing pages).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are also links in the message for the button labels.  Please
>>>>>>> check those translations and make sure that they are accurate.  Those
>>>>>>> translations will be used by default at all MediaWiki installations (not
>>>>>>> just Wikipedia and its sister projects), so precise, accurate translations
>>>>>>> are important.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Experienced editors don't need to read the button's label to know
>>>>>>> what it does, but user research over the years strongly supports this
>>>>>>> change for new contributors.  This change will be important to people who
>>>>>>> teach new editors or who maintain help documentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope to send this message to more than 600 WMF wikis, in more than
>>>>>>> 200 languages, at the end of this week.  Every language is important for
>>>>>>> this change.  Please help me if you can.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder
>>>>>>> Community Liaison
>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>>>>>>>
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