[Translators-l] Major changes to the Save button: please translate a message for me

Thu Aug 4 20:32:24 UTC 2016

I believe we are still missing translations in Spanish and German, to name
just two languages with many users.  Also, if you worked on a translation
early in the week, please check back to see whether Verdy_p's changes
invalidated any of your work.

-- 
Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder
Community Liaison
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder <
ssnyder at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Thank you all for your help so far.
>
> The page name is of almost no importance, because almost no one except us
> will see it.  People will mostly see this on their local wikis.  I do
> congratulate Philippe Verdy on correctly decoding the page title.  :-)
>
> MassMessage unfortunately does not permit translated headers.  Being able
> to provide translated ==Section headings== is high on my personal wishlist
> for future improvements.  In the meantime, if anyone happens to see these
> messages on the Village Pumps and similar pages, and wants to replace the
> header with something locally intelligible, then I would be grateful.  (I
> suspect that is universally true, regardless of who's sending the message
> or what the message is about.)
>
> Again, thank you.  You all are awesome.
>
>
> --
> Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder
> Community Liaison
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> The page itself has a translatable title, but I doubt it will be used as
>> is for posting a message.
>>
>> May be we should add a translatable section heading in this page (that
>> could then be used for posting to other talk pages or as the subject line
>> of an email).
>>
>> However, the page says it will be announced in the Tech News letter,
>> which already has its own headings (it won't be posted twice I think). So
>> in my opinion, there should just be a link from the Tech news to this page
>> (which may be updated later with complements for the release).
>>
>> So for now just translate the page title, it should be enough. The base
>> pagename "Editing" is most probably related to the work of the "Editing"
>> Team in the MediaWiki development at the WMF, but unfortunately the subtile
>> used, with only the term "/Publish", is very imprecise too generic, it
>> should have been more like "/Save or Publish buttons for a new page
>> or changes")
>>
>>
>> 2016-08-02 3:21 GMT+02:00 גיא כהן <guycn1 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hebrew also done, but I have a question:
>>> How can I translate the title of the section for this message? I really
>>> don't want this message to be posted with an English title in our wiki...
>>>
>>> 2016-08-02 0:51 GMT+03:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>:
>>>
>>>> French done (including the news page).
>>>>
>>>> Note: I fixed the code of this news page to use "bdi" tags within the
>>>> hidden tvars for button labels, because the news page displays a translated
>>>> language which is not necessarily the same as the user language used to
>>>> render the button labels (this causes issues notably for the surrounding
>>>> punctuations if these languages are not using the same direction: the page
>>>> in English could be read while the user's language would be Arabic... or
>>>> the reverse). I've checked the few existing translations of this page to
>>>> make sure they were consistant.
>>>>
>>>> The links to the two important button labels to translate, are also now
>>>> made bolder (it should be evident where to go to translate these buttons,
>>>> without having to look for the labels in the thousands of translations for
>>>> MediaWiki using searches in a long list). At first I was wondering where to
>>>> go to translate these two buttons. Now with the help page, it is clear
>>>> (even if translators on translatewiki.net don't read it completely and
>>>> don't care really about this news page).
>>>>
>>>> 2016-08-01 22:24 GMT+02:00 Vi to <vituzzu.wiki at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Italian done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vito
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-08-01 21:52 GMT+02:00 Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder <
>>>>> ssnyder at wikimedia.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please translate this message:  https://meta.wikimedia.org/
>>>>>> wiki/Editing/Publish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This message describes a significant change to the most important
>>>>>> button on any wiki:  the "Save page" button will soon be split into two
>>>>>> labels:  "Publish page" (for new page creations) and "Publish changes" (for
>>>>>> edits to existing pages).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are also links in the message for the button labels.  Please
>>>>>> check those translations and make sure that they are accurate.  Those
>>>>>> translations will be used by default at all MediaWiki installations (not
>>>>>> just Wikipedia and its sister projects), so precise, accurate translations
>>>>>> are important.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Experienced editors don't need to read the button's label to know
>>>>>> what it does, but user research over the years strongly supports this
>>>>>> change for new contributors.  This change will be important to people who
>>>>>> teach new editors or who maintain help documentation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope to send this message to more than 600 WMF wikis, in more than
>>>>>> 200 languages, at the end of this week.  Every language is important for
>>>>>> this change.  Please help me if you can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder
>>>>>> Community Liaison
>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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