[Translators-l] Please helps us translate the VisualEditor FAQ

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Thu Jun 20 18:42:42 UTC 2013

I found and reported a severe bug in the VisualEditor, where it
unexpectedly deletes without notice all template transclusions whose
parameters list contains some HTML comment (e.g. some infoboxes at top of
pages, when they contain lots of parameters, or some comments intended for
editors explaining some values or its expected format). The deletion is not
visible while saving and reviwing the page, but applied when the save
operation is confirmed.

On some pages, this is highly destructive. No reponse for now. This is a
bug in its own parser.

The Visual editor should have a checbox option to show (and edit) the HTML
comments in the page preview, as if it was a content tag.

The same is true when parser functions are included (but less critical,
because parser functions are usally within templates, and templates are
made by editors using the wiki code editor for now (the VisualEditor is
still not usable for templates, it lacks some important thingsn notably the
capability of ediring them in a property sheet where you can view and
select or add/delete the parameter to edit, and where its edited content
should also be made in tge previw pane, and multiple preview/property
sheets that are recursively included should be switchable using some
ordered navigation tabs at top of the editing window).

There are still sever issues as well when saving pages : categories can be
moved anywhere on the page.

Finally, whitespaces are also trimmed everywhere in the page (sometimes
incorrectly as well, breaking the existing code), even in paragraphs we do
not edit. It complicates things a lot when viewing diffs. And it makes the
editing of the modified wiki code much more complex (when indentation is
lost, e.g. when working with reference templates).

2013/6/20 Guillaume Paumier <gpaumier at wikimedia.org>

> Greetings,
> As many of you know, VisualEditor is going to be enabled on most
> Wikipedia sites in the next 2 months. Because this is a big change,
> we've prepared some documentation for users.
> The main document right now is a list of frequently asked questions (FAQ):
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:VisualEditor/FAQ
> The main "general" part is now stable enough and ready for translation
> into as many languages as possible. If you have time, please help us
> translate this document so that we can better help users transition to
> VisualEditor. I've started the French translation but I'd certainly
> welcome help.
> The "editing" part of the document is still being written and
> therefore not available for translation yet; I'll send another message
> when it's ready.
> One important note is that you should feel free not only to translate
> the content, but also to adapt it. For example, if Wikipedia in your
> language has a page where people can report bugs about VisualEditor,
> feel free to mention it in the translated version of the FAQ.
> Another important note: The content of this page is in the public
> domain, in order to facilitate its dissemination across wikis. By
> translating the page, you agree to put translations into the public
> domain as well.
> Let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns, and I'll
> do my best to answer them.
> Thank you for your help,
> --
> Guillaume Paumier
> Technical Communications Manager — Wikimedia Foundation
> https://donate.wikimedia.org
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