[Translators-l] 2012 Editor Survey is about to launch

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Mon Oct 29 19:56:48 UTC 2012

This is not critical for French, when you use the formal style (vous),
the person designated may be considered neutral. It is not perceived
as offensive, even if (for answers where we reply by "I" = "Je", the
gender is more important). What is important is that the survey is not
directed to a single person but to a collection of persons, whatever
their gender (but there's only one person responding with "I" / "Je").

Given that the survey does not require the gender, it cannot guess as
long as the question has not been asked and if the response is not
given or is "I don't know" or "I prefer to not reveal this detail",
and the gender is also not clear if one replies "transgender" or
"transexual" (which is also probably oiffensice for many people in
some cultures : they should better be proposed something like "not
determined", which could be merged within the same reply as "I don't
know" or "I prefer to not reveal it", in a single reply
"other/neutral/don't know/kept secret"). This will be simpler and
sufficient for the survey (which is interested more to know what
gender the people are the most linked to, and that drives their

So keep it simple : "Masculine" or "Feminine" or "Neutral".

2012/10/29 Bojan Jankuloski <bojan.jankuloski at gmail.com>:
> You are perfectly right about the genders. It renders the whole thing
> unserious and useless. I'm not too sure that most alphabets don't have
> capitals (in fact, only comparatively few don't) but that is a lesser
> problem there.
> On 30 October 2012 08:25, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> Yes but most of the typos were imported by a bot... the source of this
>> is not known.
>> I've not seen these many typos last year.
>> 2012/10/29 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki at gmail.com>:
>> > Historyh works as usual:
>> >
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research:Wikipedia_Editor_Survey_August_2012/Questions/fr&action=history
>> >
>> > http://vs.aka-online.de/cgi-bin/wppagehiststat.pl?lang=meta.wikimedia&page=Research%3AWikipedia+Editor+Survey+August+2012%2FQuestions%2Ffr
>> > (but original translations by the bot come from the previous edition, if
>> > I
>> > remember correctly).
>> > Feedback to the authors of bad translations is surely useful; thanks for
>> > fixes.
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