[Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM photos are deleted on Commons

[Alexander Tsirlin]

> Rather than complaining to the process could you please for once think 
> that this is your project too and everyone in this together?
It is not my project. Like many other people, I am forced to use it as a 
common image repository, even though I emphatically do not want to. As 
you probably know, before migrating to WMF servers Wikivoyage had its 
own image repository, and we wanted to keep it, because it was much 
better organized than Commons, and we did not want other people to 
impose their rules and practices of "nominating everything for deletion" 
on images that we have carefully collected ourselves.

Unfortunately, our request was ignored by the WMF, so yes, we are also 
in this strange thing that was supposed to be a common project, but is 
in fact run by a handful of people who believe that unjustified and 
well-hidden deletion requests are the best way to solve all problems. 
But it stinks, and we try to be as far from it as possible.

Your experience of license review for WLM Bangladesh might be 
interesting if we would ever have time to do this. At the moment, I 
spend most of my free time on finding and fighting these well-hidden 
deletion requests. Thank you, my dear Commons community, for creating 
such a wonderful working environment.

Sincerely,
Alexander


On 17.09.2016 11:32, Nahid Sultan wrote:
>
> Though it seems a bit odd but on a commons perspective it is also a 
> normal procedure. Commons has a huge issue with people finding images 
> online and then uploading them as their own work, so regular 
> contributors on commons can sometimes be overzealous in making sure 
> that people actually have the right to release what they are 
> releasing. That is where the OTRS system comes in. Rather than 
> complaining to the process could you please for once think that this 
> is your project too and everyone in this together?
>
>
> We, from WLM Bangladesh team have created a work-board/list for such 
> users who have problem with metadata, previously published same image 
> on other media to make sure that they are actually own the copyright. 
> we even created a hand book for reviewers explaining what to look 
> during the review 
> (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:NahidSultan/WLM). So, every 
> reviewer check for those mistakes when reviewing an image then if they 
> found such problematic user they immediately contact them via email or 
> talk page and list them on 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:NahidSultan/WLM/possible_copyright_problem. 
>  It works for us.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Nahid Sultan
>
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> *From:* WikiLovesMonuments 
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> Alexander Tsirlin <altsirlin at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:09 AM
> *To:* Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> *Subject:* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM photos are deleted on Commons
> Now it is not only about Freedom of Panorama and non-free images.
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_VekaSpb
> Here, one Commons user nominates a bunch of excellent photos for
> deletion after he sees that the user name does not match the name in
> EXIF, even though the connection between the two is pretty obvious. This
> deletion request has been closed yesterday, but it still costed me a lot
> of time and a long e-mail exchange with the uploader, where I tried to
> convince her that everything is fine, and this deletion request was only
> a mistake. Yes, just a small mistake, really...
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_PhotoJinn
> Here, the same user nominates for deletion some photos of a 13th century
> cathedral claiming that there is no freedom of panorama. What???!
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> That's a very systematic course of action against us taking place on
> Commons. It would be silly to assume good faith here.
>
> Best,
> Alexander
>
>
>
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