[Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wikilovesearth] acute problems with the WLX jury tool during WLE-2016

Ynhockey ynhockey at gmail.com
Sun Jul 31 21:37:05 UTC 2016

As in every previous year, I am offering my tool from 2012 (bug fixes were
made but it's essentially the same) for anyone's use. It was used by many
countries in 2012 and by a few after that, and while I heard of some
issues, AFAIK no one encountered any crippling problems (actual known bugs
have been fixed anyway). I am also open to feature requests, except
changing the two-level system which would be difficult.

If you are interested, please talk to me before the competition so there is
ample time to set up the tool. I can probably set it up on Labs but I hate
using Labs so if you have your own LAMP server or don't mind using ours,
that would be preferable. I might also upload it to Github sometime.


On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Ilario Valdelli <
ilario.valdelli at wikimedia.ch> wrote:

> Hi Alexander,
> I used Ilya's tool this year for first time and I was limited by some
> functionalities, but I survived.
> In my opinion a lot of problems are generated by operational problems
> (server availability and delays) which are really minor problems in my
> opinion.
> I used other tools in the past and had similar problems because the
> hosting solution did not assure the scalability and the resources were
> limited.
> I really suggest to focus in a singles solution instead of looking in
> alternatives.
> Any software, even if good, can have problem if hosted in a limited
> hosting provider.
> FYI I started anytime a trial round to check the configuration and
> afterwards a valid round as soon I was sure to set correctly any
> configuration. This is a workaround but a workaround is needed in any
> critical mission.
> If a selection is run in the last days, we are in this case in a mission
> critical situation, and the tool cannot assure to solve any kind of
> problems.
> I will be sure that Ilya will set a tool and will assure a good level of
> service.
> Kind regards
> In data 31/Lug/2016 15.55.23, Alexander Tsirlin ha scritto:
> We had very bad experience with using the WLX jury tool this year. I
> described it at length here:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:WLX_Jury_Tool
> Several possible solutions are also mentioned on that page. I would like
> to hear your opinion about this situation. Could anyone help Ilya with
> developing and maintaining the jury tool, and make sure that it works at
> it should work?
> If we are planning to meet a very sharp deadline of October 25 for WLM
> photos, the jury tool should work absolutely smoothly, and user support
> has to be very prompt. Or it would be good to know already now that we
> can't rely on the jury tool, and alternative solutions should be
> searched for.
> Sincerely,
> Alexander
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