[Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM Pakistan

Lily lilyofthewest.wikimedia at gmail.com
Fri Aug 5 01:53:08 UTC 2016

Hi Saqib,

We discussed the options available and here is what we'd like to share with

We are open to brainstorm with the local organizers about other ways we can
bring contributions to WLM, however, the general consensus in the team is
that the contest's concept should remain clear and easy to explain. At the
moment, the focus is on monuments, and monuments need to be tangible. If
you are interested to run the contest for both tangible monuments and
intangible heritage, and you want to do this around the same time as the
WLM contest, our recommendation is for you to consider one of the following

1) You organize two competitions starting September. The first month will
be focused on tangible heritage, the second on intangible (Think, Wiki
Loves Traditions.). Only the images collected through the first month will
be eligible for WLM.

+ This approach is easy to explain.

+ It gives more time to work out the details for the second part.

- Banner fatigue is a problem you should be aware of. Using CentralNotice
for 2 continuous months will result in banner fatigue, so you need to be
creative in how you keep the audience engaged.

- Even a month of contest is long, you can loose some of the attractiveness
and uniqueness of the contest in the eyes of your audience if it becomes
something that you run for 2 months.

2) You organize both the tangible and intangible contests at the same time,
but with two categories in parallel. Only the tangible category would be
eligible for WLM. For the non-tangible one, you can give a special prize

+ This way, you can use the WLM brand and attract participants for the
intangible component as well.
- We expect the communication for this option to be confusing. One way you
can go around the potential communication issues is by explicitly labeling
it as "pilot".

Please keep us posted with what you decide to do, and if you have
questions, please feel free to reach out. :)

Leila, on behalf of the WLM international team.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia at gmail.com>

> Hi Saqib, Hi Nicolas,
> This is to acknowledge that the international team has received your
> comments and we will get back to you, hopefully in the next 24 hours. :)
> Best,
> Leila, on behalf of the international team
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 016-08-03 19:59 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>:
>> >
>> > Hey Saqib,
>> >
>> > I'm sure the international team is onto answering this, but in the mean
>> time, I'm curious, could you link to the lists you're talking about? What
>> is the list of tangible heritage, and what is on the list of intangible
>> heritage? How big are the lists? That way everybody understands better what
>> you're talking about. Two links could be easiest.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Lodewijk
>> Hi,
>> If possible, I'd like to see that list too (fro information ; we though
>> about ICH in France and we have a list - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>> Inventaire_du_patrimoine_culturel_immatériel_en_France - bot most of the
>> items on this list are not visual - logical as we speak about intangible
>> things - and thus not easily photographiable).
>> I wait for the international team answer but in my humble and personal
>> opinion, it is a very good idea to broaden the scope of WLM (we talked
>> about it at Wikimania) and I think we should experiment new things (in
>> France, last year, we added vehicles monuments for a special prize but it
>> didn't work very well, probably because we didn't communicate enough... I'm
>> eager to hear about other experiments in other countries).
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
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