[Wiki Loves Monuments] Individual Engagement Grant for Updating the WLM Jury Tool
lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
Thu Jul 23 14:31:31 UTC 2015
In a way, it is great that so many people are working with dedication at a
Could you please update
and add your name if you run (or plan to run) a working jury tool this
year? How can people use it?
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Ilario Valdelli <valdelli at gmail.com> wrote:
> A comment that may be useful.
> I think that everyone has a need and a jury tool can fit some needs more
> than another... so the jury tool may be more than one.
> The approaches are two:
> a) someone select the "official jury tool" but the community can be a lot
> b) the jury tool is something personal like a tool developed in Toolserver
> and he/she promotes his/her own tool and the community has several options
> Personally I like the option b because it's really hard that a tool can
> fit the needs of all countries.
> The IEG may support one or two Jury tools, what is important is to clarify
> why the IEG must finance them.
> So, instead of killing the jury tool of the competitor, using the vision
> to have only one but poorly developed cause the long fight, I suggest to
> look for financial support, to propose several tools and to have the
> community choosing the most appropriated.
> This is how the information technology should work: the user is the main
> objective of the information technology, to be selected by the users
> select, this is the best result.
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Ynhockey <ynhockey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't really want to make people hate me here, and mean absolutely no
>> offense to you personally, but for now I don't see the need for this grant
>> at all. Here are the reasons:
>> 1) The tool works, but even if it didn't, we have the older tool which I
>> developed (aside from bugs, most of which have been fixed, I received no
>> complaints about it, and it was used successfully by national teams as well
>> as the international team). At the same time, Ilya just said he was
>> developing his own tool.
>> 2) Even if we needed three tools, the other two are being developed for
>> free by volunteers. Our movement has a thing against paying someone for
>> something that others are willingly doing for free/
>> 3) You seem to be a great developer, and we have a bunch of tools that do
>> need to be written / maintained! If you could delve into those, I would
>> definitely support your grant. For instance, a simple statistical tool for
>> how much each monument was photographed, etc. Platonides, Emilio and others
>> developed such tools, but they are not always maintained, and these
>> developers are not currently part of the international team (if you guys
>> are reading this, we want you back :) ).
>> —Yan (User:Ynhockey).
>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ilya Korniyko <intracer at gmail.com>
>>> Hi, I'm the developer (putting it clear) of another jury tool
>>> (surprize!) and made some critical comments
>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 4:50 AM, David Narvaez <
>>> david.narvaez at computer.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> (CCing some jury tool users outside of the WLM realm)
>>>> I am drafting an IEG to get funding to work on the jury tool in the
>>>> next couple of months:
>>>> I would appreciate if past/present/future users of the tool could
>>>> review the grant and give some feedback and/or endorse it.
>>>> David E. Narvaez
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