[Wiki Loves Monuments] Request for input: Wiki Loves-training

Fri Nov 7 19:03:29 UTC 2014

Hi Lodewijk, responde in line!

*María Cruz * \\  Community Coordinator, PE&D Team \\ Wikimedia Foundation,
Inc.
mcruz at wikimedia.org  |  :  @marianarra_ <https://twitter.com/marianarra_>

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>
wrote:

> Hi Maria,
>
> Thanks for linking again to this data-oriented report. I think it would be
> very interesting to focus this training on best practices, what works and
> what not - given the vast variety of cultures.
>

The focus of Learning and Evaluation team is also on best practices, not
just data.

I also hope to go beyond the focus of grants, but it might be a starting
> point for some of the information to prepare.
>

We can work together in building learning resources both on best practices
and geo-specific programs.

>
> Going back to the original question, at this point I think the primary
> questions lie around whether and how such a training can be set up - I
> think for example that the additional angles from the new countries could
> proof valuable.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Maria Cruz <mcruz at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> (Sorry for the previous email, accidentally clicked sent.)
>>
>> Hi Lodewijk,
>> This initiative is very interesting. At the Learning and Evaluation team
>> we always look forward to capture the learning processes that take place
>> within the movement, and share that knowledge as much as possible. I want
>> to offer support in this initiative to anyone who joins this effort: do
>> reach out and tell me how we can best help you. I have now added the
>> project on Commons to my watchlist and will follow up with news there.
>>
>> At this point, I also wanted to share in this thread the information we
>> already have about WLM, which includes key lessons learned. The Evaluation
>> Report (beta)* [1] *was the first outlet produced by our team about the
>> most common Wikimedia programs. You can see the specific report for WLM
>> here:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013/WLM
>>
>> This report was possible thanks to the I Round of Data Collection, a
>> period in which program leaders all over the world can join voluntary
>> program reporting and submit their data on Wikimedia programs. Right now,
>> we are going through II Round of Data Collection *[2]*, and obviously,
>> we are looking for data! Anyone can submit their data on WLM 2013 and WLM
>> 2014. Questions or comments can be directed to me. With this second round,
>> we want to improve the first report, expand it and make it better.
>> Hopefully, it will also help inform the training you are looking forward to
>> have.
>>
>> Why are we looking for program data? It helps us understand how programs
>> work, how much effort they take, and what results they bring to the
>> movement at large. Most importantly, it gives us leads on potential for
>> further development of programs, ways to innovate, try things that haven't
>> been done before.
>>
>> As always, I am here to help. Reach out with questions and comments!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> *María Cruz * \\  Community Coordinator, PE&D Team \\ Wikimedia
>> Foundation, Inc.
>> mcruz at wikimedia.org  |  :  @marianarra_ <https://twitter.com/marianarra_>
>>
>> Links:
>> *[1] Evaluation Report (beta):*
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013
>> *[2] II Round of Data Collection:*
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/News/Round_II_Announcement
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Zana Strkovska <777.zana at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lodewijk,
>>>
>>> I signed myself as willing to help, and I wrote a note in "Target
>>> group". I have more idea on how to help, but wanted to see how this initial
>>> idea will be accepted from the others.
>>>
>>> Username: Violetova
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Zana
>>>
>>> 2014-11-06 23:20 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not
>>>> having specifics yet :)
>>>>
>>>> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves
>>>> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same
>>>> philosophy
>>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Philosophy>),
>>>> it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different countries,
>>>> but that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. Even
>>>> if we share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to
>>>> the implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that
>>>> this could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the
>>>> costs (especially in volunteer organizing time).
>>>>
>>>> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale,
>>>> we had a very effective meeting (May 2011
>>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/May_Meeting>)
>>>> with a bunch of people from countries that indicated they wanted to
>>>> organize WLM later that year. Although much was to be improved, it helped
>>>> to build an effective network of people helping each other to organize
>>>> effective competitions - sharing skills, tools and inspiration. The
>>>> discussions there were in my opinion a major component in the success of
>>>> the competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in 2012 we also had a shorter meeting in
>>>> Amsterdam).
>>>>
>>>> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an
>>>> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful work
>>>> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression
>>>> that both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a better
>>>> international coordination could have helped the competition.
>>>>
>>>> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be
>>>> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers
>>>> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best
>>>> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can be
>>>> strengthened and the international coordination can be given a push in the
>>>> beginning.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so
>>>> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of organizers
>>>> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget, the
>>>> pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise investment of our
>>>> time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request the
>>>> money etc - that is a separate discussion.
>>>>
>>>> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's
>>>> going to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be
>>>> worth it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would
>>>> be highly valued on this page
>>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training> on
>>>> Wikimedia Commons.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts,
>>>>
>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>
>>>> PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future
>>>> competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team
>>>> again :) Just want to be realistic.
>>>>
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