[Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wlm2013-l] drop off in submissions, banner
Karthik Nadar
karthikndr at wikimedia.in
Thu Sep 19 16:10:15 UTC 2013
I agree that it sounds very rude. Instead you can say something like this:
Wiki Loves Monuments to end soon, participate in the contest and help
Wikipedia!!
Regards,
Karthik Nadar.
Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in
Participate in world's largest photo contest Wiki Loves Monuments:
www.wikilovesmonuments.in
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Osmar Valdebenito
<osmar at wikimedia.org.ar>wrote:
> To me, it sounds very rude.
> I would say something reminding that we are on the last days of the
> competition and that you can still help Wikipedia and win...
>
> *Osmar Valdebenito G.*
> Director Ejecutivo
> A. C. Wikimedia Argentina
>
>
> 2013/9/19 Richard Symonds <richard.symonds at wikimedia.org.uk>
>
>> This sounds very sensible.
>>
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>> On 19 September 2013 16:34, Michael Maggs <Michael at maggs.name> wrote:
>>
>>> As there seems to be little international discussion about updating the
>>> CentralNotice text, I'm proposing in the next day or two to change the the
>>> text for the UK (only) to
>>>
>>> Where have you been? Send us some photos!
>>>
>>> If anyone objects, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 Sep 2013, at 05:10, Karthik Nadar wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the
>>>> CentralNotice is at:
>>>>
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice
>>>
>>>
>>> Discussion kicks off there!
>>>
>>> -- Karthik.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Romaine
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner
>>>> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
>>>> wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM
>>>>
>>>> (oh, and ps: probably native
>>>> countries like the US and GB work very differently than
>>>> non-native English countries. Here participate would
>>>> definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would
>>>> only be confusing. But that is probably stating the
>>>> obvious)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/9/11 Lodewijk
>>>> <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think there are two major factors in our
>>>> image count:
>>>> 1) new participants, people who never edited
>>>> before. 2) super uploaders, people with more
>>>> than 100 images
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The highest contribution to the number of images
>>>> is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of
>>>> images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany.
>>>> The banner has primarily an influence on 1),
>>>> which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a
>>>> change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that
>>>> coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly
>>>> situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In
>>>> some other countries, there are more banners competing even
>>>> (like in NL, a conference banner with call for
>>>> speakers).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another way than the wording, is the
>>>> design.
>>>> I would suggest we continue this 'what is the
>>>> best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep
>>>> it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>
>>>> 2013/9/11 Michael
>>>> Maggs <Michael at maggs.name>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snap a snapshot for
>>>> Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves
>>>> Monuments"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> are the best I
>>>> have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as
>>>> the US. Maybe have them both running at 50%
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41,
>>>> Peter Ekman wrote:
>>>> I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted
>>>> in the last few days. It's fairly important to
>>>> determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be
>>>> something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation
>>>> in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner
>>>> display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop
>>>> happen in most countries? We don't have full control
>>>> over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space
>>>> with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some
>>>> of their displays if we ask nicely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do agree that changing the banner from
>>>> time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of
>>>> ""Participate
>>>> in the world's largest photo-contest and
>>>> help Wikipedia,"
>>>> would help any. The imperative verb
>>>> "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to
>>>> American English speakers. It suggests a high school home
>>>> economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies
>>>> to the annual bake-off. Something more active is
>>>> definitely needed, something along the line (but not
>>>> exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out
>>>> there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get
>>>> some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of
>>>> attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g.
>>>> "About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type)
>>>> upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snap"
>>>> might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the
>>>> action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike
>>>> "participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic
>>>> site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or
>>>> maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun
>>>> "It's a snap, Wiki Loves
>>>> Monuments"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't
>>>> think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner,
>>>> but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up
>>>> with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound
>>>> bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or
>>>> dialects should be considered separately, as translations
>>>> are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might
>>>> mean something entirely different in British
>>>> English
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PeteUser:Smallbones
>>>>
>>>>
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