[Wiki Loves Monuments] WikiLovesMonuments Digest, Vol 33, Issue 59
Aleksey Chalabyan
xelgen.am at gmail.com
Mon Sep 16 17:35:58 UTC 2013
Thanks for your responses, and help at settling down issue on Commons.
Let's hope that we won't get lot of tehcnical issues, because of this.
Best,
Xelgen
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> 1. Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country contests
> on same file (Aleksey Chalabyan)
> 2. Re: Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country
> contests on same file (Lodewijk)
> 3. Re: Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country
> contests on same file (Maarten Dammers)
> 4. Re: Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country
> contests on same file (Lodewijk)
> 5. Re: Tech question: 2 WLM templates of different country
> contests on same file (Ole Palnatoke Andersen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:35:42 +0400
> From: Aleksey Chalabyan <xelgen.am at gmail.com>
> To: wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tech question: 2 WLM templates of
> different country contests on same file
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> Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running WLM
> contest.
>
> If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest, with
> different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?
>
> Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign necessary
> categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?
>
> Example of such image is:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D4%B1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%AB_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84,_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B6_%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%AB%D6%80_....jpg
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> Thanks beforehand,
> Xelgen
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> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:42:11 +0200
> From: Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>
> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
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> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tech question: 2 WLM templates of
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> Hi Xelgen,
>
> last year we had a few of those situations (on the border between two
> countries, i.e. Estonia/Russia). It is not very common though, and I expect
> also this year it will be an exception.
>
> Last year the bots etc didn't explode, but they might just skip part of the
> categorization (for example, only consider the first template they see, or
> the last one). You may have to do a little more manual work in those cases.
>
> The voting tool is based on category input, so as long as you put it in the
> right country categories, it should work.
>
> Lodewijk (not very technical, so just explaining to the extent he thinks to
> understand)
>
>
> 2013/9/16 Aleksey Chalabyan <xelgen.am at gmail.com>
>
> > Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running WLM
> > contest.
> >
> > If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest, with
> > different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?
> >
> > Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign necessary
> > categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?
> >
> > Example of such image is:
> >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D4%B1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%BD%D5%AB_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84,_%D5%BE%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB%D5%B6_%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%AB%D6%80_....jpg
> >
> > Thanks beforehand,
> > Xelgen
> >
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> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:36:26 +0200
> From: Maarten Dammers <maarten at mdammers.nl>
> To: wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tech question: 2 WLM templates of
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> Hi Aleksey,
>
> Op 16-9-2013 16:35, Aleksey Chalabyan schreef:
> > Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running
> > WLM contest.
> >
> > If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest,
> > with different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?
> >
> > Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign
> > necessary categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?
> For the tools under
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database it's no
> problem, moving templates on the other hand, does break the bot. I just
> reverted the move of
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia
>
> It looks like the people from Armenia and Azerbaijan are removing
> templates (already dubbed the lamest edit war ever on the admin's
> noticeboard). I'll issue this warning to get this over with: Any user
> caught removing templates Armenia and/or Azerbaijan will get blocked.
>
> Maarten
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:58:24 +0200
> From: Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>
> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> <wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tech question: 2 WLM templates of
> different country contests on same file
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> I'm guessing this is about the Nagorno-Kabarakh region, which is by some
> considered to be an independent republic, and by some part of Azerbaijan.
>
> Please note: WLM is based on the monument definitions. If two countries
> recognized a building as monument, we use both recognitions, it is in both
> lists and the picture can participate in both contests. There is no need to
> /choose/ one. There might be a few slight technical inconveniences, but
> that shouldn't be a reason to start reverting each other or removing
> templates.
>
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2013/9/16 Maarten Dammers <maarten at mdammers.nl>
>
> > Hi Aleksey,
> >
> > Op 16-9-2013 16:35, Aleksey Chalabyan schreef:
> >
> > Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running WLM
> >> contest.
> >>
> >> If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest,
> with
> >> different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?
> >>
> >> Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign
> necessary
> >> categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?
> >>
> > For the tools under https://commons.wikimedia.org/**
> > wiki/Commons:Monuments_**database<
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database>it's no
> problem, moving templates on the other hand, does break the bot. I
> > just reverted the move of https://commons.wikimedia.org/**
> > wiki/Template:Cultural_**Heritage_Armenia<
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia>
> >
> > It looks like the people from Armenia and Azerbaijan are removing
> > templates (already dubbed the lamest edit war ever on the admin's
> > noticeboard). I'll issue this warning to get this over with: Any user
> > caught removing templates Armenia and/or Azerbaijan will get blocked.
> >
> > Maarten
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:02:46 +0200
> From: Ole Palnatoke Andersen <ole at palnatoke.org>
> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
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> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tech question: 2 WLM templates of
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> I have now given that image both templates and both sets of categories,
> which promptly caused a warning from Multichill :-)
>
> regards,
> Ole
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
> >wrote:
>
> > I'm guessing this is about the Nagorno-Kabarakh region, which is by some
> > considered to be an independent republic, and by some part of Azerbaijan.
> >
> > Please note: WLM is based on the monument definitions. If two countries
> > recognized a building as monument, we use both recognitions, it is in
> both
> > lists and the picture can participate in both contests. There is no need
> to
> > /choose/ one. There might be a few slight technical inconveniences, but
> > that shouldn't be a reason to start reverting each other or removing
> > templates.
> >
> > Lodewijk
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/16 Maarten Dammers <maarten at mdammers.nl>
> >
> >> Hi Aleksey,
> >>
> >> Op 16-9-2013 16:35, Aleksey Chalabyan schreef:
> >>
> >> Dear all, and especially those who provide us with tools for running
> WLM
> >>> contest.
> >>>
> >>> If on same page we have 2 templates, from different country contest,
> >>> with different ID, do you think scripts/bot may run into issue?
> >>>
> >>> Will those tools successfully process both of templates, assign
> >>> necessary categories, show up correctly in counters, voting tools, etc?
> >>>
> >> For the tools under https://commons.wikimedia.org/**
> >> wiki/Commons:Monuments_**database<
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database>it's no
> problem, moving templates on the other hand, does break the bot. I
> >> just reverted the move of https://commons.wikimedia.org/**
> >> wiki/Template:Cultural_**Heritage_Armenia<
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cultural_Heritage_Armenia>
> >>
> >> It looks like the people from Armenia and Azerbaijan are removing
> >> templates (already dubbed the lamest edit war ever on the admin's
> >> noticeboard). I'll issue this warning to get this over with: Any user
> >> caught removing templates Armenia and/or Azerbaijan will get blocked.
> >>
> >> Maarten
> >>
> >>
> >>
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