[Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner

[Lodewijk]

(oh, and ps: probably native countries like the US and GB work very
differently than non-native English countries. Here participate would
definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would only be confusing. But
that is probably stating the obvious)


2013/9/11 Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>

> I think there are two major factors in our image count:
>
> 1) new participants, people who never edited before.
> 2) super uploaders, people with more than 100 images
>
> The highest contribution to the number of images is 2) by a leap. This is
> mostly people with a reservoir of images - primarily in Spain, Poland and
> Germany.
>
> The banner has primarily an influence on 1), which is also important. I
> definitely wouldn't mind a change in the banner, but I would suggest to let
> that coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly situated -
> the original plan was to run it in August). In some other countries, there
> are more banners competing even (like in NL, a conference banner with call
> for speakers).
>
> Another way than the wording, is the design.
>
> I would suggest we continue this 'what is the best banner' discussion on a
> talkpage somewhere, to keep it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good
> location for that?
>
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2013/9/11 Michael Maggs <Michael at maggs.name>
>
>> Both
>>
>> *"Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia"* and *"It's a snap, Wiki Loves
>> Monuments"*
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>> are the best I have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well
>> as the US. Maybe have them both running at 50% ?
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>> Michael
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>> On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41, Peter Ekman wrote:
>>
>> I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted in the last few days.
>>  It's fairly important to determine what caused the drop off if we can.  It
>> might be something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation in
>> Syria, but might be something like a change in banner display, which we do
>> have some control over. Did the drop happen in most countries? We don't
>> have full control over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the
>> space with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some of their
>> displays if we ask nicely.
>>
>> I do agree that changing the banner from time-to-time can help. I don't
>> agree that a banner of ""Participate in the world's largest
>> photo-contest and help Wikipedia," would help any.  The imperative verb
>> "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to American English
>> speakers.  It suggests a high school home economics teacher telling us that
>> we have to bring cookies to the annual bake-off.  Something more active is
>> definitely needed, something along the line (but not exactly) of a high
>> school football coach saying "Go out there and kick some butt!"  That would
>> definitely get some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of
>> attention we want.  A teaser ad might work however, e.g. "About your photos
>> on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments"
>>
>> "Snap" might be a verb we want to use.  It gives an idea of the action
>> that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike "participate."  So
>> perhaps "Snap a historic site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people
>> up. Or maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia".  As a noun "It's a snap, Wiki
>> Loves Monuments"
>>
>> I don't think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, but I
>> think that folks should brain-storm this and come up with new ideas.
>>  Straight informative banners can sound bureaucratic or just boring.
>>  Different languages or dialects should be considered separately, as
>> translations are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might mean something
>> entirely different in British English
>>
>> Pete
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