[Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner

Lodewijk lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
Wed Sep 11 19:43:40 UTC 2013


I think there are two major factors in our image count:

1) new participants, people who never edited before.
2) super uploaders, people with more than 100 images

The highest contribution to the number of images is 2) by a leap. This is
mostly people with a reservoir of images - primarily in Spain, Poland and
Germany.

The banner has primarily an influence on 1), which is also important. I
definitely wouldn't mind a change in the banner, but I would suggest to let
that coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly situated -
the original plan was to run it in August). In some other countries, there
are more banners competing even (like in NL, a conference banner with call
for speakers).

Another way than the wording, is the design.

I would suggest we continue this 'what is the best banner' discussion on a
talkpage somewhere, to keep it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good
location for that?

Lodewijk


2013/9/11 Michael Maggs <Michael at maggs.name>

> Both
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> *"Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia"* and *"It's a snap, Wiki Loves Monuments"
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> are the best I have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as
> the US. Maybe have them both running at 50% ?
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> Michael
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> On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41, Peter Ekman wrote:
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> I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted in the last few days.
>  It's fairly important to determine what caused the drop off if we can.  It
> might be something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation in
> Syria, but might be something like a change in banner display, which we do
> have some control over. Did the drop happen in most countries? We don't
> have full control over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the
> space with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some of their
> displays if we ask nicely.
>
> I do agree that changing the banner from time-to-time can help. I don't
> agree that a banner of ""Participate in the world's largest photo-contest
> and help Wikipedia," would help any.  The imperative verb "Participate"
> is very weak, and is not natural to American English speakers.  It suggests
> a high school home economics teacher telling us that we have to bring
> cookies to the annual bake-off.  Something more active is definitely
> needed, something along the line (but not exactly) of a high school
> football coach saying "Go out there and kick some butt!"  That would
> definitely get some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of
> attention we want.  A teaser ad might work however, e.g. "About your photos
> on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments"
>
> "Snap" might be a verb we want to use.  It gives an idea of the action
> that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike "participate."  So
> perhaps "Snap a historic site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people
> up. Or maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia".  As a noun "It's a snap, Wiki
> Loves Monuments"
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> I don't think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, but I
> think that folks should brain-storm this and come up with new ideas.
>  Straight informative banners can sound bureaucratic or just boring.
>  Different languages or dialects should be considered separately, as
> translations are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might mean something
> entirely different in British English
>
> Pete
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