[Wiki Loves Monuments] Advice about what to do with a troll? participant

[Lodewijk]

Hi Oscar,

Thanks for your mail. I don't have the feeling from the column pictures at
least that this is a troll or attention seeker. Lets assume good faith, and
assume he indeed wants to make detailed photos.

Then I think that allowing them as images is totally fine. It may be
obvious that these pictures are unlikely to win any prize though.
Disqualification won't help anyone and will at best get you huge
discussions. What is important though, is that he identifies which monument
it is. Transcribing etc seems to me too much like you're making fun of him
- do I definitely don't agree with that suggestion.

So, if this indeed seems like a detail of monument 06-050, then just accept
it as a submission. If you want him also to make overview photos, you could
just ask him that in a constructive way like "Hey, thanks for
participating! I see you make a lot of nice detailed photos, but I wondered
if you could, on top of that, also make a few overview photos so that it is
clear how these details relate to each other".

Hope that helps,

Lodewijk

2012/9/15 Mike Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>

> well i looked, they are not geotagged.
> so challenge him/her, ask them to geolocate them, ask them to
> transcribe them text.
> this could be attention seeking behaviour, so give them some attention
> , but also challenge them to do more intensive work
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_seeking
>
> mike
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen
> <ole at palnatoke.org> wrote:
> > Besides, the columns seem to have names(?) on them, so there might be a
> > meaning somewhere..
> >
> > Ole
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Mike Dupont
> > <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> well sounds like a job for openstreetmap, the germans map every single
> >> lightpost, so i would say if they have geotags, keep them and put them
> >> on osm.
> >> mike
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Racso <racso at colombia.com> wrote:
> >> > I'm having a bit of trouble with a really weird (troll?) participant.
> He
> >> > has
> >> > uploaded some valid photos to the contest, but also lots of really
> weird
> >> > and
> >> > invalid stuff (for example, a photograph of a dead rat found in a park
> >> > [the
> >> > park is a monument, so let's take some close-up details of it!]). His
> >> > last
> >> > gift was this golden collection:
> >> >
> >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:N33.jpg
> >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:N35.jpg
> >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:N39.jpg
> >> >
> >> > (Try changing the two-digits number of the filename with other numbers
> >> > to
> >> > see even more columns :D [or just check this out:
> >> >
> >> >
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles/Ivan_Tunja
> ;
> >> > look for the "NXX.jpg" filenames])
> >> >
> >> > Apparently, this time he is moving around the inside of an area
> >> > surrounded
> >> > by some kind of fence and taking photos to each column the fence has.
> I
> >> > can't even know if the columns are part of a valid monument because I
> >> > cannot
> >> > see what is behind the photographer (inside the fence); and even if
> they
> >> > are, I think this is just irrational and not useful at all!
> >> >
> >> > What do you think I should do? Nothing? Disqualify the images? Let
> them
> >> > stay
> >> > until the end of september and then filter them? I don't feel
> >> > comfortable
> >> > knowing that about 10% of the contest valid images are photos of
> almost
> >> > equal columns :S ("Hey, check out Colombia cultural heritage! Yep,
> >> > columns!
> >> > [And dead rats!]"). Also, I'm getting tired of following this guy's
> >> > contribution to filter the non-useful, even offensive pictures (I
> won't
> >> > allow the rat image to reach the judges!). I think that, while the
> rules
> >> > don't state that uploading dozens of almost equal photos is invalid,
> >> > this
> >> > guy is clearly stretching the spirit of the competition.
> >> >
> >> > Any advice of how to deal with this kind of behaviour will be really
> >> > appreciated. If you think that I'm wrong and I should let him be happy
> >> > and
> >> > participate with his images, tell me so; It will also be appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Racso
> >> >
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> >>
> >>
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