[Wiki Loves Monuments] open source software for running the competition

Mike Dupont jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
Fri Sep 14 09:37:35 UTC 2012


Well, For me the goal is to collect media about the area under a
commons license. I am not interested in teaching people to read,
because most of them dont. there is just too much text on commons for
people to read, they dont understand or have the patience.  It is not
the commons suck, it is just at too high a level for the users that I
am dealing with. We have tried to get translators, it is just too much
for them.

we can discuss this later, as I said I dont have time pressure, i am
working on the apis right now, and i just wanted to know if anyone has
a good upload solution.

I tried to get people to upload to commons at our bootcamp
http://kosovoinnovations.org/yap/digital-bootcamp and it failed, we
had IP blocking of new users, we had the uploader failing, it was
horrible and a waste of time.  I need a solution that works and we can
control and debug. also the wiki was running slow.

My solution will allow users to work offline (a local api server),
setup a local server at the training center and cache all the files so
they can be uploaded later.

mike

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> this is something that was indeed done in some cases last years. However, we
> made the intentional choice to focus on uploading on Wikimedia Commons, and
> make that easier. This is because our main purpose of the competition (at
> least for me) is not the amount of pictures, but making people familiar with
> Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia - and with sharing their knowledge. If you
> then use an external platform to upload all the photos at, you're basically
> saying that Wikimedia Commons sucks big time, and people still don't
> understand that they can upload there always. Using an external platform
> also brings additional challanges (i.e. the control flow of copyright
> status, making sure all legal wording is correct, translations...) which
> have already been tackled in Commons.
>
> People who really don't want to do more than facebook operations, are
> unlikely to become very involved in Wikimedia anyway. I would prefer us to
> focus on making the upload form at Wikimedia Commons easier.
>
> In any case, I think that discussing this in October makes more sense - we
> shouldn't change much any more for this year's competition.
>
> Best, Lodewijk
>
>
> 2012/9/14 Mike Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>
>>
>> Well i want to make a simple solution.
>> Of course we will collect under cc-by-sa 3.0/gfdl and not give them
>> any other option.
>> Also I will give people one extra vote if they upload directly to the
>> commons.
>>
>> I am working on something code right now, not ready.
>> Basic idea is to implement the various web apis like facebook photo
>> api so that we can use applications like shotwell directly. I am
>> working right now on shotwell/facebok rest api.
>>
>> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/photo-librarian-server/
>> see my blog post
>>
>> http://rdfintrospector2.blogspot.de/2012/09/more-ideas-from-my-kosovo-trip.html
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Strainu <strainu10 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Then I may suggest flickr and panoramio groups, or whatever photo
>> > sharing software is used over there. We couldn't find any good
>> > solutions for Picasa, but if anyone does know of any, please share. Of
>> > course, that website MUST allow licensing the photo as CCBY or CCBYSA.
>> > Last year, Flickr provided 20% of our photos and it looks like the
>> > same thing is going to happen this year.
>> >
>> > I also remember Hungary used some custom solution due to the list
>> > licensing limitations, I'm sure they could tell you more about that.
>> >
>> > Strainu
>> >
>> > 2012/9/14 Mike  Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>:
>> >> Ok, well my plan is to make it simpler for people,
>> >> basically for them to upload to our sight and grant the rights to our
>> >> organisation and we take care of the rest.
>> >> we have huge problems with people refusing to do any more than
>> >> facebook type operations. we need to lower the bar for our users to
>> >> get anything out of them.
>> >> mike
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Strainu <strainu10 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> 2012/9/14 Mike  Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>:
>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Strainu <strainu10 at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments Photo Competition perhaps?
>> >>>> yes WLMPC, the competition. I am looking for a nice photo voting
>> >>>> software with the ability to upload photos to commons.
>> >>>> mike
>> >>>
>> >>> We're mostly doing it the other way around - we're having people
>> >>> upload the photos to Commons, then having the jury select the
>> >>> pictures. The second part varies from country to country, for instance
>> >>> in Romania the jury just browses through the category, selects some
>> >>> pictures then they meet and evaluate each of the selected pictures
>> >>> individually.
>> >>>
>> >>> Strainu
>> >>>
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>> >>
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