[Wiki Loves Monuments] Help make contact with user

Lodewijk lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
Sat Oct 27 21:29:10 UTC 2012

Hi Cristian,

I agree with the principle. That being said, it is up to the local
organizers to interpret it to some extent. Many monument photos have not
been identified by the uploader because they couldn't find their way in the
lists - and they were later identified by the volunteers. In my opinion,
that doesn't disqualify the image, because in the end it has been
identified. However, this rule does put the burden with the uploader. If
for whatever reason our volunteers cannot find the monument either (bad
description?) or they are just lazy - that is his problem and we can
disqualify the image.

The same goes imho for the email address requirement. We don't specify
/when/ it has to be given. If the local organizers are willing to put in
that effort I'm happy if they contact him otherwise and ask him to activate
the email address. However, it does put the burden with the participant -
if it takes too long for the opinion of the organizers, they can disqualify
the user from receiving a prize.

So my advice would definitely be: if you contact him otherwise, give clear
deadlines. If he doesn't respond before a certain moment: too bad, prize



2012/10/27 Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian at gmail.com>

> 2012/10/27 Itzik Edri <itzik at infra.co.il>:
> > According to the rules, a user without email cannot participate, but
> before
> > we ignore his winning, any idea or help tracking and contact him?
> 2012/10/27 Platonides <platonides at gmail.com>:
> > On 27/10/12 12:47, Roel Balingit wrote:
> >> I had finalists who didn't have e-mails. I sent them messages in their
> >> talk pages, and posted their photos in our Facebook account only through
> >> that he noticed he was a finalist and communicated with us.
> >>
> >> Roel
> >> WLMPH
> >
> > I find that approach poses a problem if they don't appear, since you are
> > publishing them as winners, then retreating.
> > We had several ineligible pictures preselected, but luckily none of them
> > reached the top positions.
> Sorry to say that, but if contest's rules say you need to provide an
> e-mail to
> participate, you have to disqualify that user if she did not provide
> an e-mail.
> I know you may think it is very sad to be disqualified because of an
> e-mail address but:
> * First, bad consequences are well explained in Platonides'answer.
> * Second, rules are rules, and they are all equal. If we make an
> exception for this I don't see why we couldn't make an exception for
> photos of monuments not in the lists or photos uploaded 1 minute past
> the deadline of the contest (or, more realistically, the case where
> multiple photos where uploaded and some of them resulted uploaded
> after the deadline of the contest).
> Cristian
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