[Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments was crap, it's high time to admit it!

Nicu Buculei nicubunu at gmail.com
Tue Dec 13 07:32:46 UTC 2011

On 12/12/2011 10:40 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote:
>> 2011/12/12 Yaroslav M. Blanter<putevod at mccme.ru>:
>>> I think this is a good direction, but I can not support the proposal in
>>> this form. What if we have just one crappy image? What if we have the image
>>> of the exterior, would we need the image of the interior? What if we have
>>> several monuments under one code?
> Let's put it a bit stronger. I would never support such a proposal. I
> support positive steering ("we encourage you to upload photo's of
> monuments that not yet have a (good) picture"), not negative steering
> ("WLM2011 we limit the eligible monuments to those without an image").

I am also *against* such a proposal for two reasons:
- putting too many rules and making it complicated, the result is making 
in not fun for the participants, so I expect a lot less people to 
participate. getting new people to start contributing is not one of the 
- what if we have 10 not crap, but average pictures of certain monument 
and someone want to send the 11-th, which is *really good*, we 
discourage that?

On a constructive tone, I think this is easily solved at the jury level, 
just make the Wikipedia usefulness one of the noting criteria, even if 
the picture is wonderful done technically and artistically, if there are 
other reasonable pics of that monument on Commons, just don't give it 
the maximum score - in Romania the jury gave 3 notes: artistic, 
technical and usefulness, each pondered: 50%, 30%, 20%.

> Op 12-12-2011 21:31, Strainu schreef:
>> Then you could just make a list of ineligible monuments. The problem
>> is that without a clear rule, you will have trouble explaining this
>> "non-ok list" to the participants. It's unfortunate that you have
>> multiple monuments with the same code. In Romania, this is solved by
>> appending 2 more digits at the end of the code. Perhaps you could
>> generate an "unofficial" code using a similar algorithm?
> That borders original research.

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