[Wiki Loves Monuments] copyright

[Maarten Dammers]

Hi everyone,

This gets a bit confusing. Let's go step by step. You take a photo of  
a building.
1. Is the buildings architect death for more than 70 years? Yes. Free

2. Is the building the main subject? No. Free.

3. Does the country have Freedom of Panorama (FOP). Yes: Free. No:  
Unfree.

4. Does your Wikipedia have an exemption doctrine (like Fair Use) for  
buildings. Yes: you can use the (low resolution) image at your local  
Wikipedia.

Italy is a special case. The law just dictates that the Italian  
government owns the rights of certain buildings.

Maarten

Op 26 apr 2011 om 12:13 heeft Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>  
het volgende geschreven:\

> Hi,
>
> lets not jump to conclusions just yet :)
>
> I don't read the template like you do, and understand the Estonian  
> situation quite differently. As I understand it, there are basically  
> two exemptions (The Fair Use-like exemption for buildings and the 70- 
> year-after-death exemption) which have overlap in old buildings. The  
> fact that the FU-exemption does not specify the 70 year one does not  
> invalidate the out-of-copyright situation. And then even this is all  
> based on Commons-templates, which are user generated, not  
> necessarily by experts and simplified to make it easier to understand.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2011/4/26 Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com>
> Hmm, then in that case, there is a problem with all of those  
> pictures. Of course, in some countries, there is a gap between the  
> law and enforcement. I don''t know if Wikipedia Estonia needs to  
> worry in the way the Italians do. Having laws doesn't always imply  
> enforcement. If the law is as the Commons templates currently  
> suggest, then I believe however that only Wikipedia Estonia can host  
> these pictures, since they are the only ones who can take the no- 
> enforcement risk.
>
> That does mean however that they cannot take part in the Europe- 
> competition, because I really don't see how you can set up the photo- 
> upload tool to work for them.
>
> How sad!
>
> Jane
>
>
> 2011/4/26 Ole Palnatoke Andersen <palnatoke at gmail.com>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Jane Darnell <jane023 at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> ...
> > The way to technically get around this one is to make sure that  
> the object
> > is NOT the main subject of the photo. Then all is well.
> > hope it helps,
>
> Yes and no - in
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haapsalu_linnus10.jpg, the wall
> ruin is the main subject of the photo, no matter what you claim.
>
> Regards,
> Ole
>
>
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