[Translators-l] Ready for early translation: Tech News bulletin #23 (2014)

Vira Motorko vira.motorko at gmail.com
Sat May 31 09:03:06 UTC 2014

> I wonder if i'ts worth to keep it in Tech/News only for about several
> hundreds admins (all wikis) or just a few ones (most wikis),

​I wonder if it's worth to keep there VE news, because most of editors who
read Tech news in ukwiki​ afaik use wikitext editing =)
This doesn't seem to be crucial.

*Vira Motorko*

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2014-05-31 10:14 GMT+03:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p на wanadoo.fr>:

> You're right, most users don't have access to this hidden Special:Page (I
> don't know why it is for admins only, ).
> So this should be changed into
>   "Users with Admnistrator right can now add pages to their watchlist
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist> directly on
> Special:UnwatchedPages
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UnwatchedPages>, without having
> to leave the page."
> I wonder if i'ts worth to keep it in Tech/News only for about several
> hundreds admins (all wikis) or just a few ones (most wikis), that don't
> care much about these news, and in fact monitor edits on wikis with more
> global tools, and specific reporting bots that don't need MediaWiki to
> watch/unwatch large lists of pages.
> However there's still a need for all users to help them manage their watch
> list
> My own list have more thousands pages : I don't monitor individual changes
> but I use the watchlist to help consult the history, or because MediaWiki
> will notify me online on each wiki; I don't want to receive email
> notifications though, because there are really too many and this would spam
> my mailbox with hundreds of changes each day... in the last couple days I
> have received more than 2000 notifications (sic!!!!) by mail ***only from
> Meta*** and this continues — of course I won't pass hours checking all of
> them as I cannot be as fast as this volume : most of these notifications
> coming from the FuzzyBot when pages are moved but also each time review a
> translated page and just click on the approve button without changing
> anything...
> Notifications about watched pages need to be reworked and they should also
> be grouped to avoid sending one mail per notification notably in FuzzyBot
> when a translated page with many units is moved as this sends several
> hundreds of emails. In fact I would appreciate if these notifications were
> grouped by contributor and paced down : these notifications can be delayed
> for about one hour. And there should also be a way to not receive all these
> notifications but just one saying that I have *some* notifications pointing
> to a special page listing them all with a way to sort it (essentially by
> user) and to mark those that I have read and want to discard, just like I
> can sort and mark emails in my mailbox.
> All this should be integrated in MediaWiki within a "Special:Inbox"
> listing all "Echo" notifications and probably later should work as if it
> was a email box with folders (and a way to sort notifs in these folders
> using some custom filters, or manuallly like by moving one or more notifs
> manually into another folder). And this page should also be used for
> messages in our talk page using one of the proposed extensions
> (LiquidThread or other). This would become our local on-wiki mailbox (and
> ideally we should be able to redirect messages from one wiki to the managed
> mailbox of another, using some predefined filters; or send a single
> notification from one wiki to another stating that it there are
> notifications on another wiki,to inform us that there are someting there :
> this would save our regular mailbox and would reduce a lot the volume of
> emails sent by Wikimedia).
> And may be in the future, Wikiemdia will work like a social network with
> groups, applications, a customized wall, integrating also our own activity
> on Wikimedia... Users could subscribe some threads of notifications for
> various projects (and it would be fun of notifications were using a RSS
> format (after all notifications are not editable pages, they are threads
> coming from various sources and all we need is to subbscribe/unscribe
> them). We could monitor this way changes from lots of places (not just in
> Wikis, but also in Bugzilla, blogs, and MassMessage...).
> 2014-05-31 6:24 GMT+02:00 Vira Motorko <vira.motorko на gmail.com>:
>> Hello,
>> You can now add pages to your watchlist
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist> directly on
>>> Special:UnwatchedPages
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UnwatchedPages>, without
>>> having to leave the page.
>>> (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translations:Tech/News/2014/23/10/en)
>> ​I think it will be useful to add that this special page is for admins
>> only.​
>> 2014-05-31 2:40 GMT+03:00 Tomasz W. Kozłowski <twkozlowski на gmail.com>:
>>> Hi!
>>> The latest issue of the Tech News bulletin is ready for early
>>> translation at:
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2014/23
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