[Translators-l] Request for quick translation: Privacy Policy Change Banner

Tue May 6 22:46:00 UTC 2014

That makes sense... I'll be honest though that'm hesitant to use it in
something like a banner where we're also asking for translations from those
who see the banner (through the translate link, though I will probably
remove that from anonymous and mobile views). Asking people to play with
the time parser codes just seems like going a bit too far away from what I
can expect for a casual translator.

James Alexander
Legal and Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby at gmail.com> wrote:

> The {{#time:}} ParserFunction:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time
>
> Tell translators in the description to fill in whatever code from that
> list is correct in their language. So for English it'll be "j F Y", for
> Norwegian "j. F Y", for Farsi "xij xiF xiY" (I think). And then in the code
> it'll be just {{#time:j F Y|2014-06-06}}, and you tell translators to keep
> the date the same, but change the codes if necessary.
>
>
> 2014-05-06 19:43 GMT+02:00 James Alexander <jalexander at wikimedia.org>:
>
> The  {{formatnum:6}} makes sense, I can add that in, (as I said earlier
>> I'm happy for people to change it for their own numerical system, but that
>> would certainly be easier). I don't know about a good way to call the
>> formate date function sadly :-/ I tried to pick the 'most' universal option
>> but it certainly isn't perfect and I completely agree with you that a
>> format date format would be useful.
>>
>> James Alexander
>> Legal and Community Advocacy
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't MediaWiki offer for all Wikimedia wikis the necessary support
>>> for formating dates according to user preferences or local wiki defaults
>>> for signatures?
>>> If so, the number 6 you want will be inappropriate in Arabic and in many
>>> date formats for South Asian languages using other digits.
>>> MediaWiki offers {{formatnum:6}} for this purpose, it is easy to infer
>>> where it is in the translation if you intend to change it. However June is
>>> also the 6th month of the year (same day number) and you may wonder which
>>> field is the day part if you don't know if the date uses "d;m;y" or "m:d;y"
>>> formatting order (some languages don"t really have names for Gregorian
>>> dates, but append a speific suffix to numbers to indicate if this is a
>>> year, month or day, such as Chinese).
>>>
>>> A very small script will generate the formated dates that are then easy
>>> to update in translations, even if you don't want to use templates for that
>>> (because templates are wiki-dependant and their name vary).
>>> But things would be even easier if all wikis had a parserfunction for
>>> formatting dates given a matching language code (if the format is unknown
>>> for that language, just use the ISO 8601 format yyy-mm-dd which is not
>>> ambiguous in all existing languages, even if it is not the most usual
>>> format for that language.
>>> I just hope that one day we'll have a parser function like
>>> {{formatdate:2014-06-06|ymd|language-code}} that will format the date using
>>> the 3 fields (not padded with zero if not needed, but not rounded to 2
>>> digits with the appropriate order, suffixes and separators, and possibly
>>> their names; all in the appropriate script)
>>>
>>> CLDR data has this info and there's even a demo in the Unicode CLDR
>>> website.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-06 2:07 GMT+02:00 James Alexander <jalexander at wikimedia.org>:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> The Legal team will be announcing later this week (currently planned
>>>> for Wednesday) the start of a 30 day notice period that the privacy policy
>>>> will be changing. This is the privacy policy that was discussed over a
>>>> multi month period on wiki (
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy ) and was recently
>>>> approved by the board. You can find the banner text to translate (using the
>>>> translate extension) at
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=Centralnotice-tgroup-PPChangeNotice2014&filter=.
>>>>
>>>> If possible (transliteration is fine) we want to keep the day part of
>>>> the date ( 6 ) as a number so that, if the announcement date gets pushed
>>>> back for some reason or another, we can adjust the official starting date
>>>> without affecting the translations much.
>>>>
>>>> Michelle is still finishing the blog post itself but the plan is to
>>>> have it available for translation as well so that over the course of the
>>>> month we can get it up in as many translations as possible.
>>>>
>>>> If you'd prefer you can also send me the translation off list and I'm
>>>> happy to insert it. The current text is:
>>>> Our Privacy Policy is changing on 6 June 2014.
>>>> To learn more, click here.
>>>>
>>>> We also have the 'close' text (shown you hover over the close button)
>>>> saying: Close
>>>>
>>>> James Alexander
>>>> Legal and Community Advocacy
>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
>>>>
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