[Translators-l] Wikidata weekly newsletter translation

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Sun Jun 22 14:16:43 UTC 2014

The only concern is that Wikidata is a single wiki and not all users on a
given wiki will be concerned (except for adding interwiki links but
technically ll is done on this subject). The rest is about data that will
be used by tricky templates and whose readers would be more technical users
than usual.

So if you add things about Wikidata, this should be generic enough to
interest most people (notably contributors writing articles) and not just
developers of tricky templates using Wikidata; such things could include
some technical issues to discuss about translation and localisation of this
data, creation of Wikidata user groups interested in some projects (such as
adding reference IDs or supporting the integration of some data related to
GLAM collections).

If this is just to discuss about migration of ontologies, and this does not
require a large participation (if this can be done essentially by bots),
then I think that these technical news should remain on Wikidata (and use a
separate distribution for real developers of Wikidata): nothing forbids
duplicating an announcement on both letters, but typically the annoucement
in Tech News should be much shorter than the Wikidata technical news. If
the tech news is just about the change of support of specific extensions
used only by Wikidata, this should not be in Wikimedia Wiki Tech news which
are really cross-project and should interest most users of Wikimedia sites
contributing pages (and that's why the VisualEditor takes a good place in
these Wikimedia Tech News).

Note also that most news related to Meta-Wiki and policies (or financement
campaigns, or elections in the WMF comitees) are handled in a separate
messaging system (currently using the old "Goings-on" system that should
evolve later after the Main Page will be really fully translatable with the
Translate tool) : they are also announced not primarily by MassMessage but
by global site notifications (but some users may opt to receive these
Wikimedia notifications by mail, notably for things like new global
policies or guidelines, or opening of a new Wikimedia content project).

2014-06-22 13:10 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il>:

> What makes more sense at this point is to start adding a paragraph about
> Wikidata to the Tech News as they are rather than having a whole separate
> translatable newsletter. In the Tech News there's a whole paragraph every
> week about the VisualEditor, and there are short updates about CirrusSearch
> and MediaViewer almost every week. A weekly update about Wikidata can be
> there, too. If a whole paragraph is too long, a couple of the most
> important points would be a good beginning.
> It takes me less than ten minutes a week to translate each whole Tech News
> issue. Adding a few sentences about Wikidata should add no more than two
> minutes to the time that the translators already invest. I think that it's
> perfectly doable.
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
> 2014-06-22 13:32 GMT+03:00 Bohdan Melnychuk <base-w at yandex.ru>:
>>  Hello,
>> I want the subject's mailing list to be translatable and delivered the
>> same way as it's with Tech news. I've asked about it on it's subscription
>> page's talk page and faced there Lydia, who doesn't believe that there
>> would be any volunteers (except for me in the current point) to translate
>> it.
>> So if you would like to translate the newsletter when it would be set to
>> be possible, could you leave a note in [[:m:Talk:Global_message_delivery/Targets/Wikidata#Multilingual
>> distribution
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Global_message_delivery/Targets/Wikidata#Multilingual%20distribution>]]
>> about your willing so we get Lydia convinced :) Poking friends who may do
>> it is welcome as well ;)
>> Also it would be nice if Odder or/and Guillom leave a note about
>> technical side of such delivery the same way as the latter was so kind to
>> leave in Education newsletter's talk :)
>> Yours sincerely,
>> --Base
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