[Translators-l] Ready for translation: Tech news summary #25, distributed tomorrow

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Sun Jun 16 08:31:47 UTC 2013

Thanks for alerting us a bit sooner. Well may be you created it on
Saturday, but this was late and I actually got this mail on Sunday during
the night, so I translated it on Sunday morning. Now we have at least 24
hours to translate them, this is still quite short, if there are not a lot
of translators.

To help accelerate translations, it would be desirable to have a few fore
templates for items that are present repeatedly every week (or most of
them), in order to reduce the number of items to reduce or facilitate the

E.g. translatable templates for

   - "(bug #nnnn)", "Recent software changes", "Future software changes"
   (sometimes you may need to add specific sections that will need their own
   - the generic header : "Latest *tech
   * from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users
   about these changes.
   available.*" (well this may change over time but it should contain
   stable things not intended to be present only for one week ; as this is
   general descriptions and instructions this should also apply to past news
   - the generic trailer with navigation links: "*Tech
   by tech ambassadors<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Ambassadors>
   posted by Global message
    • Contribute<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute>
    • Translate<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2013/25>
    • Get help <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech> • Give
    • Unsubscribe<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors>
   .*" (same remark).

We should then only need to translate the effective news items in these two
lists of news, faster, with reduced work. (However it may complicate the
delivery of the news to other wikis or to subscrived emails.)

Is there a way to transclude directly some contents from Meta-Wiki to all
other wikis, in order to avoid maintaining multiple templates, or to allow
local wikis to simply navigate and present these news with a local
template, which may allow selecting locally between several languages,
notably on multilingual wikis (like Commons), or wikis in languages that
require several presentations (like Chinese) or several transliterations
(like Serbian) ?

May be a Lua module could help here, if Lua modules can read contents from
other wikis: it was said that Lua shoul also allow editing wiki contents,
at least on the local wiki, possibly on others but but I've never tried it
and don"t know if this is possible according to different wiki policies,
even if all users should now have their account unified with SUL, allowing
more integration and cooperation across wikis.

[Like when importing an image to Commons directly when editing an article
in Wikipedia to embed this image, including from Mobile Wikipedia. Once the
image is posted, its description page may be completed later on Commons,
and its categorization added, but as the image is immediately used and seen
in a Wikipedia article (normally with a text description below it, also
posted on Commons in the source language of this wiki), thecategorisation
of the image in Commons may be helped now with tools using information
collected from this referencing Wikipedia article and from the description;
this is a useful enhanced integration scheme between Commons and Wikipedia
that facilitates the edit work for everyone].

Note that news posted on Wikimedia wiki should better be done by posting
them in a template of these wikis, and the posts to talk pages should be
limited to a simple ==Heading== and {{template transclusion}}.

Thanks however for adding a link in
available*" added to the generic header, to show these translations that
may be added after the notification was posted, to promote its translation
if it's missing or incomplete), or for reading updated translations (fixing
errors in unreviewed fast translations after the delivery of notifications).

2013/6/15 Guillaume Paumier <gpaumier at wikimedia.org>

> Greetings,
> The latest tech newsletter is ready for translation:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2013/25
> We will send it tomorrow, in order to give a little time for
> translation while still providing users with information that isn't
> outdated. The translations that are complete or mostly complete will
> be posted on the wikis in that language.
> As previously discussed on this list, we adapted our schedule to send
> this call for translations on Saturday instead of Sunday, on the
> assumption that it may be easier for translators to volunteer their
> time on the week-end. Please let us know if that helps. We'll adapt
> further if necessary.
> Note: These two templates appear on the page and need to be translated
> separately (if translations aren't already done):
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Tech_header
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Tech_news_nav
> Let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns. I
> appreciate your help and feedback.
> --
> Guillaume Paumier
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