[Translators-l] New system for notifying translators, and two new requests

Bojan Jankuloski bojan.jankuloski at gmail.com
Mon May 21 03:23:06 UTC 2012


Thanks for doing that. It works nicely now.

I agree with this. The 'published' option creates confusion and should be
the sole preserve of those implementing the translations. Even I have been
confused about it on occasions, because there are places (such as on Meta)
where you can clearly see that the translation appears as soon as you've
done it (even partially).
Of course, this is not the same as its implementation on other places, such
as Foundation wiki, but newer translators who don't know all particulars
can see that the translation has appeared on Meta and opt to set it as
'Published' - which it clearly is, locally - and be unaware that the
"publish" refers to another place where it actually has not been published.
To avoid all this, it is far wiser to have 'Ready' as the most advanced
option available, and then the person implementing them can have a look and
set them as published when they've been actually published in the required
places.

Thanks for bringing up the issue. Much appreciated

On 20 May 2012 23:15, Thehelpfulone <thehelpfulonewiki at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 20 May 2012 07:24, Bojan Jankuloski <bojan.jankuloski at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot!
>> One other thing. The banner on mk.wiki leads to this page
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use%20(2012)/en?utm_source=TOU_top<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use%20%282012%29/en?utm_source=TOU_top>,
>> i.e. has the 'en' rather than the 'mk' prefix. Is this something that will
>> change automatically, once you've published the translation, or will it
>> need changing somewhere manually?
>>
>> Cheers
>
>
> Hi Bojan,
>
> Thanks for reporting this, that was another change that needed to be made
> through the Central Notice on Meta-Wiki (
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NoticeTemplate/view?template=TOU_top&wpUserLanguage=mk),
> I've fixed that now so it should take you to the /mk sub-page. One of the
> issues that seems to be occurring is that some translators (perhaps the
> newer ones) are marking pages as published as I imagine they think that if
> they mark a page as published it will publish the page. I was discussing
> this with Niklas and Siebrand (the authors of the Translate extension), and
> am looking into possibly restricting who can mark a page as published, so
> that only Translation administrators (or Meta-Wiki admins?) will be able to
> mark the page as published, and when doing so they will be able to make
> sure that everything else is done - such as the correct link in the Central
> Notice.
>
> Thehelpfulone
>
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