[Translators-l] Translation credit

[Siebrand Mazeland]

I agree with the suggestion that meta translators need better tooling, but moving Wikimedia related translations to translatewikin.net is not a proper solution per se. I have been advocating use of the Translate extension, and more specifically the page translation feature, on meta for a while now in an informal way hoping someone would take up the challenge and find a way to convince the powers that be to make a serious effort to get it installed on meta.

I do realize the workflow is different from what translators are used to working with now, but i myself have a strong feeling of "this workflow cannot be happening" each time i work on a translation on meta, in particular when the source page content has changed and i have to resort to checking page history for what has changed.

Feel like discussing this more interactively? Pleases join us in the #mediawiki-i18n irc channel, join translatewiki.net and check out the page translation feature, or check it out on userbase.kde.net.

Siebrand Mazeland
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On 20 jan. 2011, at 09:19, "Amir E. Aharoni" <amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Several times during the fundraiser i updated the translations
> manually with corrections made by other people and then i just
> mentioned their usernames in the edit summary. This should be good
> enough as far as credit goes.
> 
> For a fuller solution i propose moving all the translation efforts to
> translatewiki.net , which offers convenient tools for automatic
> translation updates, and to the best of my knowledge, they take care
> of credit, too.
> 
> 2011/1/20 KIZU Naoko <aphaia at gmail.com>:
>> Hi,
>> I guess we don't have a written form policy of credit or even common
>> one. My recommendation for wmf editors who publish the translation
>> from meta to wmf site
>> is using [[meta:special:Import]] for moving the files to wmf site
>> which enables us
>> to preserve the original history, but sometimes it takes a time and I
>> understand not always it hasn't be kept.
>> 
>> Another solution, I believe once Wing suggested too, might be putting
>> the translators' credit on the page in a much more visible way, not
>> only relying history page alone, but it has not been taken into
>> serious consideration to implement ... yet.
>> 
>> What do you guys think the latter solution?
>> Is anyone (preferably a MW developer) interested in?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Benny <bknliem at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, forgive me for asking this, but what's the policy for crediting a translation? For example, the Indonesian landing page is http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/WMFJA026/id  With a little research we can find that the source is http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:2010/JimmyLetterK/id, but when you look at it's history, there's no link to the actual translation page, i.e. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Jimmy_appeal_2/id, thus it seems that Klyman is the one who did the translation. I suppose he should've at least mention where the translation was taken from. Or is there another rationalization?
>>> 
>>> ___________________
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> benny
>>> 
>>> --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Philippe Beaudette <pbeaudette at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Philippe Beaudette <pbeaudette at wikimedia.org>
>>> Subject: [Translators-l] Reminder on the urgent Jimmy
>>> To: "Wikimedia Translators" <translators-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:33 PM
>>> 
>>> Just a gentle reminder:  we have an appeal from Jimmy up at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Translation .  This one will be pushed out to all wikis, so we really need it localized as much as possible, please... any help you can give is gratefully appreciated.
>>> pb
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