[Mediawiki-i18n] CLDR and Names.php

സുനിൽ (Sunil) vssun9 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 14 12:18:23 UTC 2012

Thanks Gerard

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gmeijssen at wikimedia.org>wrote:

> Hoi,
> We do use the CLDR data and we REALLY, REALLY want people to assess the
> data that is in the CLDR both for correctness and completeness. Many of the
> languages we support in MediaWIki are not yet supported in the CLDR. We are
> seeking this support actively. We would also be REALLY happy when any and
> all languages are supported in the CLDR.
> And yes, the CLDR extension is still very much in use. Regularly we did
> override the CLDR data because of problems with its data.. Recently an
> override was put in place on the Incubator to change Aurocana to
> Mapundungun.
> Thanks,
>       Gerard
> PS you CAN change CLDR data at this moment ...
> http://cldr.unicode.org/index/survey-tool
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Shervin Afshar <shervinafshar at gmail.com>wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Two weeks ago Amir submitted a request to the mailing list asking folks
>> to review the list of language names available in Names.php:
>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;hb=HEAD
>> The request was followed up by few issues noticed for Czech, Slovak, and
>> some other languages. It's obvious that by relying only on available input
>> from the community, one can not make sure that the rest of the data is
>> correct. Given this I recommended doing a minimal implementation of CLDR
>> data. Here's what I wrote to Amir:
>> I skimmed through the list and haven't seen anything incorrect. I have a
>>> question though; considering the fact that some of this data is available
>>> in CLDR, have you ever considered integrating their data and then do a
>>> fallback? The fallback would definitely be necessary in some cases because
>>> your list is *way* more extensive than what CLDR currently supports.
>>> Of course, CLDR specs lets adding new locales easily. So the ideal
>>> would be to have a seed (with minimal information) for the locales which
>>> doesn't exists there and are present in MW list. As CLDR is peer
>>> reviewed through surveys targeted in-country scholars and standard body
>>> representatives, normally the quality of the data and metadata is very good.
>>> In the past, there was at least this one extension I know off which was
>>> facilitating the use of CLDR data on MW:  http://www.mediawiki
>>> .org/wiki/Extension:CLDR
>>> Let me know what you think. I'd be happy to help.
>> I haven't received any feedback from Amir up to now and as I'm not a MW
>> developer, I'm writing here to ask for your opinion on the matter. The
>> bottom line is that I can script out something that cross-checks Names.php
>> values with CLDR entries, but I think it'd better to think about a
>> long-term solution.
>> Cheers,
>> Shervin
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