[Translators-l] Tech/News translations title

[Tilman Bayer]

Looks like a possible extension for
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54839 .

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Seb35 <seb35wikipedia at gmail.com> wrote:
> With MassMessage, the wikicode is executed on the target wiki, not on Meta.
> So there is no chance the pages Translations:Tech/News/2014/07/Page display
> title/* exist on the target wiki; the translations have to be imported in a
> way or another on the target wikis.
>
> ~ Seb35
>
> Le Sun, 09 Feb 2014 21:31:44 +0100, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr> a
> écrit:
>
>> I do not see the interest of duplicating the existing title already in the
>> Translate: namespace into a separately translatable template (which will
>> also recreate an entry for the translated item, so the item will be
>> tripled
>> !
>> Why don't you just test and use the existing Page title item which is
>> directly in the Translations: namespace ?
>>
>> Post the mass message with title (French version tested here):
>>
>>
>>
>> [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2014/07|{{subst:#ifexist:Translations:Tech/News/2014/07/Page
>> display title/fr|{{Translations:Tech/News/2014/07/Page display
>> title/fr}}|Tech News: 2014-W07}}
>>
>>
>> Note that you could even create a template that uses TNT to get the
>> translated title:
>>
>>     {{TNT|Translations:Tech/News/2014/07/Page display title}}
>>
>> TNT by default uses the language detected in the content of the current
>> page (independantly of user's preference) ; to use the user
>> preferred/selectedlanguage (like Special:MyLanguage/) you can pass the
>> parameter "uselang={{uselang}}", e.g.
>>
>>     {{TNT|Translations:Tech/News/2014/07/Page display
>> title|uselang={{uselang}}}}
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-08 12:36 GMT+01:00 Seb35 <seb35wikipedia at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> A proposition:
>>>
>>> 1/ Translate on Meta the message "Tech News: {{{1}}}-{{{2}}}" (anywhere,
>>> for instance in Template:Tech header)
>>>
>>> 2/ Replicate by bot or by hand this message on each language wiki (WP,
>>> WS,
>>> etc.) into a template {{Tech News title}} containing the corresponding
>>> translation of "Tech News: {{{1}}}-{{{2}}}"
>>>
>>> 3/ Post the mass message with title "[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/
>>> News/2014/07|{{subst:#ifexist:Template:Tech News title|{{subst:Tech News
>>> title|2014|07}}|Tech News: 2014-07}}]]" (perfect tweet: 140 characters :)
>>>
>>> ~ Seb35
>>>
>>>
>>> Le Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:11:09 +0100, Guillaume Paumier <
>>> gpaumier at wikimedia.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>  On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Each translated page has a title which is accessible in the
>>>>> Translations:
>>>>> namespace, which uses the sub-id "Page display title" instead of the
>>>>> numeric
>>>>> id of a translation unit in the source page, just before hte language
>>>>> code.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes. the problem is not to access the translation, but to post it.
>>>>
>>>> When we were using EdwardsBot, we discussed the possibility of using a
>>>> #switch for the title based on the wiki's {{CONTENTLANG}} (like we do
>>>> for the message's body), but the limitation on the length of MediaWiki
>>>> edit summaries prevented us from doing that.
>>>>
>>>> We're now using MassMessage, but that limitation remains. I've tried
>>>> to include the title in the body (the downside being that there would
>>>> be a blank edit summary), but MassMessage doesn't allow to send
>>>> messages without a title.
>>>>
>>>> Which brings me back to: If someone has ideas about how to do it, I'm
>>>> happy to try. :)
>>>>
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