[Wiki Loves Monuments] 'evaluation'

Samat samat78 at gmail.com
Sat May 2 12:09:16 UTC 2015

I aggree with both of you, these are the main goals :)

(Personally I prefer Lodewijk's approach, I think community building and
outreach is more important than simple content creation, at least for us.)


On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>

> I think this is a clear demonstration that WLM is a diverse project :) You
> identify that having a picture for each monument is the main goal, but as
> you know I disagree with that: for me the competition is and will always be
> a tool to get more people on board, to get people aware of the fact they
> can contribute, and help them over the threshold. For many local
> competitions, it is more important however to use WLM as a community
> building tool. I have seen great outcomes in this field in the Middle East,
> where communities work together in real life for one of their first main
> projects, and after that continue to organize other activities as well.
> Best,
> Lodewijk
> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> The focus of the evaluation is very much biased.
>> The focus is too much on money, it gives me a horrible feeling, the
>> community/participants are not a factory plant in what every employee needs
>> to work a minimum number of hours. The goal of Wiki Loves Monuments is to
>> get all monuments with a good picture on Wikipedia, not just of the most
>> popular or easy monuments. The first time a contest as such is organised
>> the low hanging fruits are done first, but they forget to mention that
>> getting the low hanging fruits is not the core goal of Wiki Loves
>> Monuments. The goal of Wiki Loves Monuments is to get a photo of every
>> monument. The more monuments get a picture, it becomes much harder to ge a
>> picture of the other monuments. It are too much easy thoughts without
>> thinking it through. It is failing in describing the actual situation and
>> misses totally what Wiki Loves Monuments is about.
>> WMF has set some objectives for itself, and now the evaluate those
>> objectives/goals, even while Wiki Loves Monuments has a different focus.
>> To me the evaluation is a signal that WMF is too far away from the actual
>> community.
>> Romaine
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