[Wiki Loves Monuments] Wikidata

Jane Darnell jane023 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 27 09:47:22 UTC 2015

Wonderful set of links, thanks! And of course Mix-n-Match is a great idea -
maybe the whole monuments database can go in there? The ecosystem is not
well documented (or at least no where central I think). My gut feeling is
that Listeria should be used to generate the lists on WIkipedia, though
this should maybe be a two-step process (see the previous discussion about
sorting issues and units and so forth). I agree with the generic bit, as I
see lots of overlap with something like "Wiki Loves Art"  for example.

As for the Commons-scanning bot that looks at recent WLM uploads, my
feeling on that one is that we need to catch those with the current
upload-campaign tooling somehow. All of that was built prior to the birth
of Wikidata as well.


On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske at googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I just subscribed to this list, after it was mentioned to me. I'd like to
> give a brief overview of what I can offer in terms of WLM and Wikidata. I
> skimmed the July mailing list archive about Wikidata, but please forgive me
> if I repeat something already said.
> Last year, I wrote the official WLM tool for the UK. As part of that
> exercise, I also created Wikidata items for all grade I and II* monuments
> in the UK on Wikidata.
> As a "side effect", I also created a tool to browse any monument with an
> ID number on Wikidata:
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/wlmuk/index_wd.html
> I do not consider this "production grade" at the moment, but it could be
> seen as a prototype. And while it currently requires a country-specific
> property (or multiple), it could be extended to also use anything with
> P1435 ("heritage status") within a country. That would abolish the need for
> unique, stable IDs, though it will make management of these objects a
> little harder of Wikidata.
> As for syncing with Wikipedia(s), I can offer a list-generating and
> -updating bot already in in production on English Wikipedia and Wikidata,
> as described here:
> http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=301
> This could be used as an automated to-do-list (e.g. a list of all
> monuments in Lower Saxony without an image on Wikidata), or a total
> overview of these items (with image where available). This will require an
> image to be set in the Wikidata item, and it will only show one image, so
> it might not be suited as a show-the-latest-image-of-X, and it will not
> search Commons on its own.
> For synchronizing a list of monuments with Wikidata, I can offer my trusty
> mix'n'match tool:
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/
> I can upload any list that consists of names and IDs (which can be fake),
> optionally a brief description and a URL (pointing to an external catalog).
> The tool offers various ways to match entries to existing Wikidata items,
> or declare entries as "not on Wikidata yet", so they can be batch-created.
> To find existing images for monuments, I can offer WD-FIST:
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/wdfist/index.html
> For a set of items, it can scan Wikipedia (and other projects) for images,
> and present them for one-click addition to Wikidata. It can even do Commons
> free text search, though there tend to be quite a few false positives. At
> the very least, this could be a "from home" activity for WLM enthusiasts.
> A missing piece in this "ecosystem" appears to be a Commons-scanning bot
> that looks at recent WLM uploads, and recognizes IDs of monuments, or maybe
> just names, and generates a list of suggested matches between Commons and
> Wikidata (and, optionally, Wikipedia). Such a bot could surely be arranged,
> given detailed enough specifications.
> While I can not promise to devote as much time as last year on this, I'll
> help where I can. One point I would like to emphasize is that, whatever we
> come up with, I would like it to be generic enough to work for all, or at
> least most, sets of monuments, or even beyond that; every set of items with
> coordinates and/or "in admin unit" property should work out-of-the-box, and
> some parts (e.g. WD-FIST, Listeria) already work fine for biographies,
> taxons, etc.
> Cheers,
> Magnus
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