[Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has notstarted yet...

Mon Sep 1 18:20:28 UTC 2014

improving the error message would probably be more instructive and helpful
in the long run :) Just give people an advice how to act (i.e. add the date)

2014-09-01 20:13 GMT+02:00 werespielchequers <werespielchequers at gmail.com>:

> I wonder if we could change the upload so it added a random suffix to
> non-unique file names? That way the uploads would still work, and we
> wouldn't lose the meaningful part of file names - sometimes the best bit
> for search results.
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Racso
> Date:01/09/2014 17:54 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
> notstarted yet...
>
> It's clear that obscure names should be discouraged (for Wikimedia Commons
> standards), but right now we may discourage participation with that
> limitation. There isn't even an option to pick a new filename when an error
> occurs in the UploadWizard; you have to start the upload process all over
> again. Also, there isn't a quick way to check if the filename that is about
> to be used is already occupied or not; you have to save, get the API error,
> and start over again.
>
> Also, please note that the problem isn't limited only to obscure names.
> The "Eiffel TowerX.jpg" (for several values of X, and with no X) name is
> already occupied. The same may happen to popular monuments on each country.
>
> That said, I insist: we should make participation as easy as possible. In
> most photo repositories (everyone except Commons?), you don't even need to
> assign names to uploaded files; they are automatically generated. Yes, they
> end being obscure, random names such as 12309803.jpg, but nobody cares
> about that! We can't change Commons naming policies right now, but we can,
> at least, help participants by reducing name collisions or making the
> error-fixing process as easy as possible.
>
> For now, I'll try to explain in WLM-CO instructions that an "api-error-unknownerror"
> means that the photo filename should be changed.
>
> Racso
>
>
>
> 2014-09-01 4:53 GMT-05:00 <aktron at centrum.cz>:
>
>> Yes,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have received some e-mails from various people that they do have this
>> issue in WLM CZ. I do believe however it is a filename issue, as it is
>> highly logical to expect files named IMG_401.JPG to be kinda problem to
>> upload... as pretty much everyone tried to do so in past 10 years.
>>
>>
>>
>> So they were kindly asked to change the filename...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Aktron
>>
>> Wikimedia Czech Republic
>>
>> chairman
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> > Od: KaewWiki <KaewWiki at gmail.com>
>> > Komu: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
>> wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> > Datum: 01.09.2014 11:11
>> > Předmět: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
>> notstarted yet...
>> >
>>   Hi Rasco,
>>
>>  I confirmed that "<api-error-unknownerror>" is a filename problem.
>>
>>  We should
>> (1) tell the uploader that it is a filename issue.
>> (2) allow them to go back to the page where the uploader may give a new
>> name -- rather than give an option to retry.
>>
>>  Taweetham
>>
>>
>> On 1 September 2014 14:06, Jan Ainali <jan.ainali at wikimedia.se> wrote:
>>
>>> DSC0001 - 28392 is an obscure file name and should really be
>>> discouraged. File names should be descriptive. If anything, the help text
>>> for that field can be made clearer.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali*
>>>
>>>  Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige
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>>>
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>>> Bli medlem. <http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-09-01 9:00 GMT+02:00 Racso <racso at colombia.com>:
>>>
>>>  I had that error when doing a test upload. I retried, changing the
>>>> filename, and it worked.
>>>> That made me wonder: Is there a way for making the UploadWizard to
>>>> append a random number to the default filename? I'm pretty sure lots of
>>>> participants will have trouble because of trying to upload images with
>>>> already occupied filenames, specially if the names come from cameras (e.g.
>>>> DSC0001). If a random number is appended to the name (e.g. DSC0001 -
>>>> 28392), we would heavily reduce this problem.
>>>> Racso
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-08-31 22:42 GMT-05:00 KaewWiki <KaewWiki at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> However, it now has another problem at "Describe" stage:
>>>>>
>>>>> 77px-Örebro_slott_resynth.jpg
>>>>> <api-error-unknownerror>
>>>>> None of the uploads were successful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Retry failed uploads
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone has done a successful test upload?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 September 2014 10:09, KaewWiki <KaewWiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > It is now fixed. Thank you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 1 September 2014 09:21, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> I think this is a known bug of the upload wizard. Is it still say
>>>>> that the
>>>>> >> contest has not started yet?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Romaine
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2014-09-01 2:16 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum <saqib.qayyum at hotmail.com>:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Same here Pakistan
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ________________________________
>>>>> >>> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:15:51 +0200
>>>>> >>> From: pierre-selim at huard.info
>>>>> >>> To: wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
>>>>> not
>>>>> >>> started yet...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Same here when I tried to submit an image to UK contest :-)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> 2014-09-01 2:13 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki <KaewWiki at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hello All,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> This is a message from WMTH.  This is about 7:05am Thailand time or
>>>>> >>> 00:05 (UTC).  I try to do a test upload and see the following
>>>>> message.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> "Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet.
>>>>> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments will start in September. You may still share
>>>>> your
>>>>> >>> images, but they will not be eligible for the competition."
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> The URL is
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-th&id=0000024&descriptionlang=th&description=%5B%5B%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A8%5D%5D&lat=
>>>>> 13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999
>>>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-th&id=0000024&descriptionlang=th&description=%5B%5B%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A8%5D%5D&lat=13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Anyone got the same problem?  Any solutions?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Many thanks,
>>>>> >>> Taweetham
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>> Pierre-Selim
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
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