[Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner

Thu Sep 12 04:10:01 UTC 2013

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the CentralNotice
> is at:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice

Discussion kicks off there!

-- Karthik.

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>
> Romaine
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> On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org> wrote:
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>  Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner
>  To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
> wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org>
>  Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM
>
>  (oh, and ps: probably native
>  countries like the US and GB work very differently than
>  non-native English countries. Here participate would
>  definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would
>  only be confusing. But that is probably stating the
>  obvious)
>
>
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>  2013/9/11 Lodewijk
>  <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>
>
>
>  I think there are two major factors in our
>  image count:
>  1) new participants, people who never edited
>  before. 2) super uploaders, people with more
>  than 100 images
>
>
>
>  The highest contribution to the number of images
>  is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of
>  images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany.
>  The banner has primarily an influence on 1),
>  which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a
>  change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that
>  coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly
>  situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In
>  some other countries, there are more banners competing even
>  (like in NL, a conference banner with call for
>  speakers).
>
>
>
>  Another way than the wording, is the
>  design.
>  I would suggest we continue this 'what is the
>  best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep
>  it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for
>  that?
>
>
>
>  Lodewijk
>
>  2013/9/11 Michael
>  Maggs <Michael at maggs.name>
>
>
>
>  Both
>
>
>
>  "Snap a snapshot for
>  Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves
>  Monuments"
>
>
>
>  are the best I
>  have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as
>  the US. Maybe have them both running at 50%
>  ?
>
>
>
>  Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41,
>  Peter Ekman wrote:
>  I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted
>  in the last few days.  It's fairly important to
>  determine what caused the drop off if we can.  It might be
>  something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation
>  in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner
>  display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop
>  happen in most countries? We don't have full control
>  over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space
>  with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some
>  of their displays if we ask nicely.
>
>
>
>
>  I do agree that changing the banner from
>  time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of
>  ""Participate
>  in the world's largest photo-contest and
>  help Wikipedia,"
>  would help any.  The imperative verb
>  "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to
>  American English speakers.  It suggests a high school home
>  economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies
>  to the annual bake-off.  Something more active is
>  definitely needed, something along the line (but not
>  exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out
>  there and kick some butt!"  That would definitely get
>  some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of
>  attention we want.  A teaser ad might work however, e.g.
>  "About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type)
>  upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments"
>
>
>
>
>
>  "Snap"
>  might be a verb we want to use.  It gives an idea of the
>  action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike
>  "participate."  So perhaps "Snap a historic
>  site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or
>  maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia".  As a noun
>  "It's a snap, Wiki Loves
>  Monuments"
>
>
>
>
>  I don't
>  think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner,
>  but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up
>  with new ideas.  Straight informative banners can sound
>  bureaucratic or just boring.  Different languages or
>  dialects should be considered separately, as translations
>  are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might
>  mean something entirely different in British
>  English
>
>
>
>
>  PeteUser:Smallbones
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