[Wiki Loves Monuments] Why deadlines exist

Lodewijk lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
Fri Oct 5 07:27:36 UTC 2012

Hi all,

a few remarks from this discussion:
* The suggestions by Polimerek sound really good - although I'm not sure if
it is viable to set up such an extra banner system (it's quite a lot of
* There will '''always''' be people just too late... So lets not get
discouraged by that.
* Pete: yes, the local jury should decide on the interpretation and
admission. However, a) this doesn't mean we agree with it/like it, and b)
reverting a bot is not the way to implement it. If you have valid
exceptions (might very well be good reasons for), you should contact
Platonides directly. But please be careful with this.
* Finally: to get the contest recognized by externals (such as Guinness
Book of World Records) changing the rules half way might actually be
detrimental. While we may consider this 'not important', for outsiders
changing the rules is a sign of not being serious and in fact bending the
rules is almost asking for conflicts of interest.


2012/10/5 Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek at gmail.com>

> 2012/10/5 Peter Ekman <pdekman at gmail.com>:
> > Probably more important is the case where somebody starts uploading
> > hundreds of photos just before the deadline (Did this actually happen
> > somewhere?) To me that suggests something wrong, but not with the bot
> > or even the rules of the contest. I'm not sure I would know how to fix
> > that behavior.
> We had such a user. He claimed that he had prepared 40 pictures using
> upload wizzard and then upoladed just a couple of them before midnight
> CEST and the rest was upoladed a bit too late. He claimed that he did
> that from UK (although for Polish contest) and had UTC time set in his
> preferences, so was sure that his upload will be accepted. However our
> regulation clearly stated that the end of contest is at midnight CEST.
> Dura lex, sed lex - but I would like to avoid such situations. This
> guy was really angry - his pictures were really good - so in fact -
> Wikimedia Commons lost a good photographer. He stayed anonymous - if
> we know his personal data at least we could send him some gadgets or
> small gift to please him :-) As the one of the main goals of the
> contest is to encourage people to stay with us after the contest -
> such a situations are counter effective.  I see two solutions for next
> year:
> To enable a kind of warning banner saying for example "please hurry up
> there is 15 min. left and 3 MB file takes several minutes to upload on
> slower connections..." + have some special "excuse" prize for unlucky
> uploaders who are late for several minutes...
> --
> Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz
> http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
> http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
> http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz
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