[Wiki Loves Monuments] Ideas wanted: Our lists have become too big

Bas vb basvb_wikipedia at live.nl
Thu Jul 26 21:05:21 UTC 2012


On the dutch wiki we've made quite some splits in lists. But we haven't found the best way to split them on (with over 1000 monuments in one city), either by adress, zip code or monument ID. 
Amsterdam with 8000 monuments is our biggest pain in the ass, as are Brugge and Gent (both 10.000 monuments) in Flanders. the size limit is there for some reason, I recall the first time I created the Amsterdam list (the 2Mb limit wasn't there yet) with all 8000 monuments this resulted in a page which couldn't be loaded, and thus not easily deleted.

Mvg, 
Bas
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:59:14 +0200
From: noorse.wikipedia at gmail.com
To: wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Ideas wanted: Our lists have become too	big

Hi Strainu,the Norwegian lists have been subdivided into municipalities, and for Oslo even into boroughs - http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Lister_over_kulturminner_i_Oslo 
Can this be a solution for Romania as well? BRnoorse

On 26 July 2012 22:48, Strainu <strainu10 at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,



A few days ago I've introduced direct upload links for all the

monuments without an image in the monument list. The link worked ok,

but I've noticed that the 3 biggest counties (by number of monuments)

were not displayed completely anymore due to the page becoming larger

than the maximum allowed article size [1]. I reverted the direct

upload link, but the problem remained for Iași [2].



Since the problem is only going to get worse as the lists get more

complete, I am now wondering what my options are:

- ask the WMF for an increase in wgMaxArticleSize in ro.wp. Tempting,

but even if this happens before September, >2MB pages will still be

hard to load on older computers.

- use a short URL service to shave some characters off the URL used

for error reporting/image uploading. Might still hit the limit at some

point

- give up on the error reporting and/or direct image uploading (either

in all the counties or just in the ones where we hit the size limit).

This sounds like a hard price to pay, since we've received an

impressive number of error reports and I'm sure the direct upload link

will also be a success.

- further split the county list into several smaller pages. As you can

see, the list is already split into sections by letter, but putting

the sections in different pages would mean between 20 and 30 links,

which I believe could discourage people looking for a certain

monument.



I am not sure which of these options to choose and I am hoping for

some advice from you guys.



Thanks,

   Strainu





[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxArticleSize

[2] https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_monumentelor_istorice_din_jude%C8%9Bul_Ia%C8%99i



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