[Wiki Loves Monuments] FoP and monuments

WereSpielChequers werespielchequers at gmail.com
Sat Jul 21 11:59:26 UTC 2012


In the UK we are OK with anything that is both three dimensional and
permanently on public show. Even so lots of temporary exhibited sculptures
and two dimensional plaques murals and so forth get deleted.

Many other countries are much more problematic. I think we need a feeder
database for images that can't yet be released on a full Commons compatible
license but can be made available on a more restricted license. For example
in some countries there is a no commercial use stipulation, but as I
understand it it would be legal to take an image of something like that and
load it onto a site that allowed such images. Ideally it would be tagged
with a "safe to migrate to commons after" date. OK in some cases it will be
many decades before those images can migrate, but there is no deadline and
we can afford to think longterm.

It would also be less bitey on commons if some images could be temporarily
moved to this holding bay rather than deleted. It should even be possible
to build this into the image uploader.

WSC

On 20 July 2012 14:09, Paul Selitskas <p.selitskas at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Sylvain Machefert <smachefert at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 2012/7/19 Maarten Dammers <maarten at mdammers.nl>
> >>
> >> Op 19-7-2012 16:06, Matthew Roth schreef:
> >>
> >> 2. Does anyone have experience in other countries with monuments that
> are
> >> on the list but are still under copyright? Will we need to be clear that
> >> some of the sites on the Register in the U.S. are not eligible for the
> >> contest?
> >>
> >> I guess this is a very small percentage.
> >
> >
> > In France there's noFOP and we've got some protected buildings that are
> > still under copyright (as far as I know we don't know the exact number),
> we
> > have started to use a special picture for them in the lists on wikipedia
> :
> >
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:B%C3%A2timent_droit_d%27auteur.svg
> > saying that the building is copyrighted.
> >
> > We also communicated about this topic with a blog post during the last
> > competition :
> > http://blog.wikimedia.fr/wiki-loves-monuments-et-le-droit-dauteur-3649(in
> > french, sorry). Our main problem was that the records describing
> buildings
> > aren't always accurate and/or the architects aren't famous so for many
> 20th
> > century buildings we don't really know if they are free or not.
> >
> > Sylvain
> >
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> We are facing the same issue in Belarus. The estimate is 30%+....
> monuments in cities.
>
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