[Wiki Loves Monuments] Definitions of participating photos

Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod at mccme.ru
Fri Dec 14 14:28:48 UTC 2012

Hi Lodewijk,

one thing to have in mind is that there were many images uploaded which 
will eventually be deleted from Commons because of the freedom of 
panorama issues. My impression is that these are mostly limited to 
Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus (with a big share of Ukrainian submissions 
being ineligible), but I have no statistics to prove this. These images 
get nominated for deletion on a regular basis and get routinely deleted 
after a week.


On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:50:13 +0100, Lodewijk wrote:
> Hi all,
> just like last year, I am working on applying for recognition of Wiki
> Loves Monuments as the World Largest Photography Competition. We
> should be easily able to meet this record, but the evidence is always
> a bit tricky to generate. Just like last year, Id like to be able to
> send them a full list of all participating images. 
> However, for other purposes we might need different definitions. Id
> like to suggest a few different definitions here. 
> == Retention statistics ==
> For running retention statistics etc, Id like to use wide definitions
> of participating people and images: If the uploader *thought* he was
> validly submitting, that is good enough. After all, here it is the
> intention that counts. So this list should ideally include every 
> image
> that ever contained the Wiki Loves Monuments template. No matter if
> the image was deleted, disqualified or if the country didnt submit
> finalists.
> * No matter which country
> * No matter the license / deleted or not
> * No matter the monument template
> * But within the time frame that the contest was ongoing (to have
> clear stats for a full month of contest)
> == Guinness ==
> This will be the strictest definition because we cannot afford a
> single mistake (that would make the process much more painful and
> long) and we have easily beaten the record anyway so we can afford
> this. 
> For this purpose, we should generate a clean list of images that
> definitely fulfill the criteria. This means among others that a
> submission is for this definition only considered valid if it really
> made a chance to win the international prize (similar to last year).
> That means for example unfortunately that images from Belgium &
> Luxembourg & South Tyrol cannot participate for this definition.
> (Belgium & Luxembourg didnt submit finalists, so strictly speaking
> those images never made any chance to win the international
> competition. For Italy (including South Tyrol) there was a bit more
> complicated rule due to local legislation that there had to be a
> permission from the soprintendenza (if you want details, please ask
> the local organizers!) etc. 
> * Participating in one of the 33 countries that submitted nominees 
> for
> the finale.
> * License OK
> * Not deleted
> * Monument template with existing monument ID in the database has to
> be present (should there be exception countries to this?) In the case
> of Italy, the monument has to be on the cleared list (can someone
> provide a complete cleared list as it was valid for the competition
> 2012?)
> * Uploaded within the time frame for that country. Exception is mass
> uploads from mobile platform and Flickr. I believe Platonides has a
> whitelist for these bot uploaders? 
> Am I missing any other criteria that could invalidate according to
> such a strict definition? Im skipping the activated email address
> because in practice we have reminded people of activating that if
> relevant on several occasions. 
> Id like to get started with this soon, so any quick feedback would be
> welcome. 
> Kind regards,
> Lodewijk

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