[Wiki Loves Monuments] Definitions of participating photos

Lodewijk lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
Thu Dec 13 22:58:25 UTC 2012

Hi Santi,

is there an easy way to confirm somehow that an image that has n/d actually
has been confirmed to contain a monument?


2012/12/13 Santiago Navarro Sanz <wikimillars at hotmail.com>

>  Lodewijk. In Spain there are some monuments without ID. On Wikipedia
> lists volunteers put a n/d (not available = no disponible) or left it
> empty, but the pictures of these monuments were easily recognizable with
> the name of the picture.
> The pictures that we recognized as pictures of monuments not elegible or
> simply that showed a thing that was not a monument we removed their
> template of WLM and put them in a special category.
> Santi (Millars)
> ------------------------------
> From: lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:50:13 +0100
> To: wikilovesmonuments at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Definitions of participating photos
> Hi all,
> just like last year, I am working on applying for recognition of Wiki
> Loves Monuments as the World Largest Photography Competition. We should be
> easily able to meet this record, but the evidence is always a bit tricky to
> generate. Just like last year, I'd like to be able to send them a full list
> of all participating images.
> However, for other purposes we might need different definitions. I'd like
> to suggest a few different definitions here.
> == Retention statistics ==
> For running retention statistics etc, I'd like to use wide definitions of
> participating people and images: If the uploader *thought* he was validly
> submitting, that is good enough. After all, here it is the intention that
> counts. So this list should ideally include every image that ever contained
> the Wiki Loves Monuments template. No matter if the image was deleted,
> disqualified or if the country didn't submit finalists.
> * No matter which country
> * No matter the license / deleted or not
> * No matter the monument template
> * But within the time frame that the contest was ongoing (to have 'clear'
> stats for a full month of contest)
> == Guinness ==
> This will be the strictest definition because we cannot afford a single
> mistake (that would make the process much more painful and long) and we
> have easily beaten the record anyway so we can afford this.
> For this purpose, we should generate a clean list of images that
> definitely fulfill the criteria. This means among others that a submission
> is for this definition only considered valid if it really made a chance to
> win the international prize (similar to last year). That means for example
> unfortunately that images from Belgium & Luxembourg & South Tyrol cannot
> participate for this definition. (Belgium & Luxembourg didn't submit
> finalists, so strictly speaking those images never made any chance to win
> the international competition. For Italy (including South Tyrol) there was
> a bit more complicated rule due to local legislation that there had to be a
> permission from the soprintendenza (if you want details, please ask the
> local organizers!) etc.
> * Participating in one of the 33 countries that submitted nominees for the
> finale.
> * License OK
> * Not deleted
> * Monument template with existing monument ID in the database has to be
> present (should there be exception countries to this?) In the case of
> Italy, the monument has to be on the 'cleared list' (can someone provide a
> complete cleared list as it was valid for the competition 2012?)
> * Uploaded within the time frame for that country. Exception is mass
> uploads from mobile platform and Flickr. I believe Platonides has a
> whitelist for these bot uploaders?
> Am I missing any other criteria that could invalidate according to such a
> strict definition? I'm skipping the 'activated email address' because in
> practice we have reminded people of activating that if relevant on several
> occasions.
> I'd like to get started with this soon, so any quick feedback would be
> welcome.
> Kind regards,
> Lodewijk
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