[Translators-l] new messages for the Content Translation extension
mathieu stumpf guntz
psychoslave at culture-libre.org
Mon Dec 5 18:22:46 UTC 2016
Le 05/12/2016 à 16:38, Philippe Verdy a écrit :
> In most wikis, verbs used in UI buttons or links are using the
> infinitive form rather than the imperative.
>
> It is more formal/polite as the imperative sounds like you're giving a
> strong order, when in fact you're just describing the action that will
> be done **if** the user follows the link or click the button.
Well, sure, that's what I usually do, and as far as I can remember,
that's what I learn in human–computer interaction courses. Amusingly,
Esperanto doesn't have imperative, instead you use volitive
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volitive_modality>.
>
> Notes:
> * Some languages still prefer using the imperative form in a less
> formal form. Sometimes they also do not hesitate to talk directly to
> the user, such as German using "Du" rather than the formal "Sie" for
> translating the English "you". Still, German also has a more "formal"
> translation using infinitive and "Sie", with a language variant coded
> as "de-formal".
> * Some other languages prefer the formal form by default, but also
> have an informal form, such as Dutch, with a language variant coded
> as "nl-informal".
> * With these variants, users can choose the correct form they prefer
> and that sound look more correct for them.
How nice, surely I should write a "fr-informal" and "fr-crude" or
whatever the English grammarians use as translation of "vulgaire
<https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Termes_vulgaires_en_fran%C3%A7ais>".
And hopefully we might even be gratified with non fr-fr proposals! :)
>
>
> 2016-12-05 16:02 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni
> <amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il <mailto:amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il>>:
>
> Hmm, it depends on your language's user interface translation
> conventions. Both can be OK. The feature in question is already
> deployed to Wikipedia in all languages, so you can simply try
> translating an article with an infobox that is available in the
> Esperanto Wikipedia, and see what works better.
>
> Hope it helps, and thanks for your translations!
>
> בתאריך 5 בדצמ׳ 2016 03:57 PM, "mathieu stumpf guntz"
> <psychoslave at culture-libre.org
> <mailto:psychoslave at culture-libre.org>> כתב:
>
> Are this sentences using imperative or infinitive form for the
> leading verbs? I went with the infinitive form in the
> Esperanto translation…
>
>
> Le 25/11/2016 à 15:18, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit :
>> Hi translators!
>>
>> A first release of a major new feature of the Content
>> Translation extension will be deployed to Wikipedia next
>> week: A template editor.
>>
>> It will give the article translators much more control over
>> how the template adaptation works.
>>
>> There are only a few messages to translate for this. Here's a
>> direct link for translating it in translatewiki.net
>> <http://translatewiki.net> :
>> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=!translated&action=translate&group=ext-contenttranslation
>> <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=%21translated&action=translate&group=ext-contenttranslation>
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> --
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