[Translators-l] Plural rule changes for many languages - MediaWiki migrates to CLDR 26

Wed Oct 29 08:37:32 UTC 2014

Regarding Russian; what I see is that there's a separation of decimals
which should be minor (like Uyghur or Asturian), but I don't understand why
there was the need to swap the 2nd and 3rd form and why an automated bot
could not perform this swap automatically in ressources, and could not be
using the existing 3rd form (now 2nd) be used to create a new default value
(to review) for the 4th form for numbers with decimals.

2014-10-27 19:44 GMT+01:00 Niklas Laxström <niklas.laxstrom at gmail.com>:

> MediaWiki is upgrading its plural rules to match CLDR version 26. The
> updates include incompatible changes for plural forms in Russian,
> Prussian, Tagalog, Manx and several languages that fall back to
> Russian. In addition there are minor changes for other languages.
>
> In January 2014, CLDR 24 had introduced several changes in the plural
> forms for some of these languages, including Russian, and we had
> updated MediaWiki's plural rules to comply with the CLDR standard.
> Some of these changes are now being reverted. Below is a detailed
> explanation of the changes.
>
> For the migration period, from Monday, 27th October 2014 to Thursday
> 6th November 2014, we have disabled LocalisationUpdate at Wikimedia
> wikis to reduce the chance of ungrammatical translations being
> displayed in the interface. Translators are requested to start
> updating translations from Tuesday 28th October 2014 onward.
>
> Further updates will be posted on
>
> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/Plural_rule_changes_for_many_languages
>
> == Russian and language using Russian as fallback ==
> Languages affected: Russian (ru), Abkhaz (ab), Avaric (av), Bashkir
> (ba), Buryat (bxr), Chechen (ce), Crimean Tatar (crh-cyrl), Chuvash
> (cv), Inguish (inh), Komi-Permyak (koi), Karachay-Balkar (krc), Komi
> (kv), Lak (lbe), Lezghian (lez), Eastern Mari (mhr), Western Mari
> (mrj), Yakut (sah), Tatar (tt), Tatar-Cyrillic (tt-cyrl), Tuvinian
> (tyv), Udmurt (udm), Kalmyk (xal).
>
> CLDR 24 plural forms for Russian were:
> * Form 1: @integer 1, 21, 31, 41, 51, 61, 71, 81, 101, 1001, …
> * Form 2: @integer 0, 5~19, 100, 1000, 10000, 100000, 1000000, …
> * Form 3: @integer 2~4, 22~24, 32~34, 42~44, 52~54, 62, 102, 1002, …
> @decimal 0.0~1.5, 10.0, 100.0, 1000.0, 10000.0, 100000.0, 1000000.0, …
>
> This has been changed to :
> * Form 1: @integer 1, 21, 31, 41, 51, 61, 71, 81, 101, 1001, …
> * Form 2: @integer 2~4, 22~24, 32~34, 42~44, 52~54, 62, 102, 1002, …
> * Form 3: @integer 0, 5~19, 100, 1000, 10000, 100000, 1000000, …
> * Form 4: @decimal 0.0~1.5, 10.0, 100.0, 1000.0, 10000.0, 100000.0,
> 1000000.0, …
>
> Plurals in translations for affected languages have been updated
> automatically where possible. Translators are requested to check all
> messages containing plurals, starting from those which have been
> marked as outdated.
>
> == Prussian ==
> Prussian (prg) now follows the same rules as Latvian (lv):
> * Form 1: @integer 0, 10~20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 100, 1000, 10000, 100000,
> 1000000, … @decimal 0.0, 10.0, 11.0, 12.0, 13.0, 14.0, 15.0, 16.0,
> 100.0, 1000.0, 10000.0, 100000.0, 1000000.0, …
> * Form 2: @integer 1, 21, 31, 41, 51, 61, 71, 81, 101, 1001, …
> @decimal 0.1, 1.0, 1.1, 2.1, 3.1, 4.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1, 10.1, 100.1,
> 1000.1, …
> * Form 3: @integer 2~9, 22~29, 102, 1002, … @decimal 0.2~0.9, 1.2~1.9,
> 10.2, 100.2, 1000.2, …
>
> Translators are requested to update all translations containing plural
> rules. Those translations have been marked as outdated.
>
> == Tagalog ==
> Tagalog (tl) has new rules as follows:
> * Form 1: @integer 0~3, 5, 7, 8, 10~13, 15, 17, 18, 20, 21, 100, 1000,
> 10000, 100000, 1000000, … @decimal 0.0~0.3, 0.5, 0.7, 0.8, 1.0~1.3,
> 1.5, 1.7, 1.8, 2.0, 2.1, 10.0, 100.0, 1000.0, 10000.0, 100000.0,
> 1000000.0, …
> * Form 2: @integer 4, 6, 9, 14, 16, 19, 24, 26, 104, 1004, … @decimal
> 0.4, 0.6, 0.9, 1.4, 1.6, 1.9, 2.4, 2.6, 10.4, 100.4, 1000.4, …
>
> Translators are requested to update all translations containing plural
> rules. Those translations have been marked as outdated.
>
> == Manx ==
> Manx (gv) has a new (fourth) form for decimals. New rules are as follows:
> * Form 1: @integer 1, 11, 21, 31, 41, 51, 61, 71, 101, 1001, …
> * Form 2: @integer 2, 12, 22, 32, 42, 52, 62, 72, 102, 1002, …
> * Form 3: @integer 0, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 120, 140, 1000, 10000,
> 100000, 1000000, …
> * Form 4: @decimal 0.0~1.5, 10.0, 100.0, 1000.0, 10000.0, 100000.0,
> 1000000.0, …
> * Form 5: @integer 3~10, 13~19, 23, 103, 1003, …
>
> Translators are requested to update all translations containing plural
> rules. Those translations have been marked as outdated.
>
> == Other languages ==
> * In Mirandese (mwl), Portuguese (pt) and Brazilian Portuguese
> (pt-br), the first form now also includes zero.
> * In Uyghur (ug), Lower Sorbian (dsb) and Upper Sorbian (hsb), support
> for decimals was added.
> * In Asturian (ast) and Western Frisian (fy), the first form is no
> longer used for decimals.
>
> Translators are encouraged to review translations with plural forms
> and update them where necessary. Because the changes have been minor,
> we have not marked those translations as outdated.
>
>   -Niklas
>
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